Hey, Hey, Hey, It's Pfaadt Gilbert GT

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Re: Hey, Hey, Hey, It's Pfaadt Gilbert GT

Post by Bil522 » Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:27 pm

I know it is not PC but Cosby was a great storyteller. Here is the original story about Fat Albert

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42yGK7pvgVc

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Re: Hey, Hey, Hey, It's Pfaadt Gilbert GT

Post by Seattle or Bust » Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:30 pm

According to Fangraphs, George Kirby has been worth 1.2 fWAR and Logan Gilbert just 0.6 fWAR despite Gilbert's 0.80 WHIP and 1.87 ERA. Kirby has a 1.11 WHIP and ERA of 4.18... Kirby leads all starting pitchers in FIP at 2.08 while Gilbert is is 29th with a 3.34.

Me thinks Fangraphs values FIP too much. The point is to allow other teams to not score runs...

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Re: Hey, Hey, Hey, It's Pfaadt Gilbert GT

Post by seth8734 » Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:45 pm

Today's lineup screams runs. Sux to have Haniger on the bench but needs rest. Cal has been struggling so day off knew that was coming. Hopefully Seby catches well and produces at the plate today. Rivas debut. Hopefully he crushes it!

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Re: Hey, Hey, Hey, It's Pfaadt Gilbert GT

Post by D-train » Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:45 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:30 pm
According to Fangraphs, George Kirby has been worth 1.2 fWAR and Logan Gilbert just 0.6 fWAR despite Gilbert's 0.80 WHIP and 1.87 ERA. Kirby has a 1.11 WHIP and ERA of 4.18... Kirby leads all starting pitchers in FIP at 2.08 while Gilbert is is 29th with a 3.34.

Me thinks Fangraphs values FIP too much. The point is to allow other teams to not score runs...
Pitching fWAR is based exclusively on FIP. I totally agree and noticed that this morning as well.

BR has Gilbert at 1.2 bWAR and Kirby at 0.1 bWAR.
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Re: Hey, Hey, Hey, It's Pfaadt Gilbert GT

Post by Seattle or Bust » Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:52 pm

D-train wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:45 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:30 pm
According to Fangraphs, George Kirby has been worth 1.2 fWAR and Logan Gilbert just 0.6 fWAR despite Gilbert's 0.80 WHIP and 1.87 ERA. Kirby has a 1.11 WHIP and ERA of 4.18... Kirby leads all starting pitchers in FIP at 2.08 while Gilbert is is 29th with a 3.34.

Me thinks Fangraphs values FIP too much. The point is to allow other teams to not score runs...
Pitching fWAR is based exclusively on FIP. I totally agree and noticed that this morning as well.

BR has Gilbert at 1.2 bWAR and Kirby at 0.1 bWAR.
I think there's a middle ground to be achieved here.

I think both should apply FIP and R/9 50/50 of the current allocated values lol

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Re: Hey, Hey, Hey, It's Pfaadt Gilbert GT

Post by desbcoach » Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:54 pm

seth8734 wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:45 pm
Today's lineup screams runs. Sux to have Haniger on the bench but needs rest. Cal has been struggling so day off knew that was coming. Hopefully Seby catches well and produces at the plate today. Rivas debut. Hopefully he crushes it!
It scream I hope we get 1 run but there is hope

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Re: Hey, Hey, Hey, It's Pfaadt Gilbert GT

Post by Seattle or Bust » Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:00 pm

desbcoach wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:54 pm
seth8734 wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:45 pm
Today's lineup screams runs. Sux to have Haniger on the bench but needs rest. Cal has been struggling so day off knew that was coming. Hopefully Seby catches well and produces at the plate today. Rivas debut. Hopefully he crushes it!
It scream I hope we get 1 run but there is hope
Good thing Pfaadt sucks. Career 4-10 with a 5.54 ERA.

In his only start against the M's he went 5.2 IP with 3 ER's. He gave up 8 hits and a walk.

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Re: Hey, Hey, Hey, It's Pfaadt Gilbert GT

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:41 pm

No line-ups? What's the world coming to?

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Re: Hey, Hey, Hey, It's Pfaadt Gilbert GT

Post by seth8734 » Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:46 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:41 pm
No line-ups? What's the world coming to?
Haniger out Cal out. Basic same as last night just Rivas debut and Seby.

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Re: Hey, Hey, Hey, It's Pfaadt Gilbert GT

Post by D-train » Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:51 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:52 pm
D-train wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:45 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:30 pm
According to Fangraphs, George Kirby has been worth 1.2 fWAR and Logan Gilbert just 0.6 fWAR despite Gilbert's 0.80 WHIP and 1.87 ERA. Kirby has a 1.11 WHIP and ERA of 4.18... Kirby leads all starting pitchers in FIP at 2.08 while Gilbert is is 29th with a 3.34.

Me thinks Fangraphs values FIP too much. The point is to allow other teams to not score runs...
Pitching fWAR is based exclusively on FIP. I totally agree and noticed that this morning as well.

BR has Gilbert at 1.2 bWAR and Kirby at 0.1 bWAR.
I think there's a middle ground to be achieved here.

I think both should apply FIP and R/9 50/50 of the current allocated values lol
Yes! Can't fathom how they can be so stubborn and arrogant to not come together and have a standard WAR for the good of the game....
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