Taking Nominees for M’s Anti-Hall of Fame!!

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Post by D-train » Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:50 am

Happy as hell wrote:
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I cannot see how Woodward belongs in the anti-HOF. He drafted Rodriquez and signed Randy Johnson as well as others (e.g., Boone) that blossomed in the Mariners golden time.
I agree but he traded for Randy and Gillick signed Boone.
Yes, he traded for Randy, but Wikipedia claims Woodward drafted Boone, not that Wikipedia is infallible.



https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Woody_Woodward
Sorry, I was thinking about Boone's triumphant return in 2001. He didn't do much for us the first time around.
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Post by Happy as hell » Sun Aug 11, 2019 3:54 am

You’re right. I guess Boone didn’t discover PEDs until the second time around.

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You’re right. I guess Boone didn’t discover PEDs until the second time around.
I don't think anyone did until at least the mid 90s
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Post by Donn Beach » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:26 am

he had 12 home runs in 76 games in 1993, that was a club record for home runs by a second baseman at the time.

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Post by D-train » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:28 am

Donn Beach wrote:
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he had 12 home runs in 76 games in 1993, that was a club record for home runs by a second baseman at the time.
37 8 years later. All my passwords are still some variation of Bboone
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Post by Donn Beach » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:34 am

looking at his stats, he was hitting home runs, had 19,20,24 with Cincy. Its interesting that huge jump in WAR, he was basically replacement level those seasons. And also the big leap in batting average. How do PEDS fuel a leap to a .330 batting average...

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Post by D-train » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:38 am

Donn Beach wrote:
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looking at his stats, he was hitting home runs, had 19,20,24 with Cincy. Its interesting that huge jump in WAR, he was basically replacement level those seasons. And also the big leap in batting average. How do PEDS fuel a leap to a .330 batting average...
That has baffled me as well but the same happened with Bonds.
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Post by D-train » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:41 am

Bonds has a .609 OBP in 2004. That is freaking insanity.
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Post by Donn Beach » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:48 am

but Bonds didn't have a jump in batting average, he hit the same range of average pretty much his entire career, he was hitting over .300 back with the Pirates, Boone went from .251 to .330 from 2000, to 2001

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Post by D-train » Sun Aug 11, 2019 4:52 am

Donn Beach wrote:
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but Bonds didn't have a jump in batting average, he hit the same range of average pretty much his entire career, he was hitting over .300 back with the Pirates, Boone went from .251 to .330 from 2000, to 2001
Bonds went from about .300 to .370.
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