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2020 Offensive Line Prospects

Posted: Tue Jan 14, 2020 11:43 pm
by ThePro
I highlighted the ones I think Hawks should/could target. Feel free to add. There are many more. These are just some guys that caught my eye watching games. Really like Becton and Biadasz. Schneider was at Husky vs Oregon game . He was scouting someone. I think it was Adams.

CENTERS

TYLER BIADASZ
Tyler Biadasz has been established as one of the best interior offensive lineman eligible for the 2020 NFL Draft. The center took control of Wisconsin’s offensive line in 2019 and was the core to opening the pathway for running back, Jonathan Taylor. Taylor finished the season with over 2,000 rushing yards and 21 touchdowns and is a top running back prospect for the 2020 NFL Draft in late April.

Wisconsin tended to rely on their powerful and aggressive rushing attack in 2019, driving it up the gut most of the time. This gave Biadasz more than enough opportunities to showcase his talents on a team known for sending off many of their big boys to the NFL.

Position: Center, but could play any interior offensive line position
Height: 6-foot-3
Weight: 321 Pounds

Strengths
The center possesses an above-average vision. Always consistently turning his head back and forth with awareness, anticipating an incoming defender of any kind. This allows him to quickly pick up and sustain blitzes once he snaps the ball.

Highly mobile for his size. Has the speed and footwork needed to be utilized for pulling plays such as counters and screens. Can hustle his way to those second-level blocks against linebackers. He did this plenty during his time at Wisconsin. Good power blocker with a solid frame who displays a powerful ‘punch’ upon impact.

Biadasz has an extremely strong upper body. Gets good control of the defender and will hold them stagnant. Rare for players to shed off his blocks. His bulky arms help counter rushing defender’s hand and arm moves. He understands the position well and owns great patience.

One of my favorite aspects of his play is the ideal leg drive he obtains. Will play to the whistle blows. He continually pushes his opponent with tenacity until they hit the turf. He keeps his feet moving and remains in position at the center of the play. Will get in front and absorb the big hit for his ball-carrier.

What I think sets him apart from mid to late rounders is his ability to turn and twists defenders east and west with his excellent inside hand placement. Once he snaps the ball, Biadasz grips and drives defensive lineman towards the direction of the sideline, easily opening a hole and taking the defender out of the play.

Weaknesses
Like all players, Biadasz does have weaknesses. The interior offensive lineman struggles against defenders with speed due to his lack of arm length and quickness. Would have a hard time against the Aaron Donald’s of the league, but should excel against more bigger ‘hole-stuffing’ defensive tackles such as Damon Harrison from the Lions.

His biggest flaw is his balance. Biadasz has been known for dropping to his knees when overpowered. When he reaches open field he likes to lunge towards the defender. Which is why on film you see the lineman on the ground more than one would like.

When he does tend to play high, he pays for it. During his college career, Biadasz was often pushed back behind the line-of-scrimmage on passing plays. He seems to rely too much on his upper-body strength rather than his legs. Perhaps due to the hip surgery he had last offseason.

Biadasz’s athleticism seems to be held back a bit by his weight. However, with a professional NFL workout and nutrition regime, he could shed off some pounds with ease.

Best fits for Biadasz
I have Biadasz projected as a mid to late first-round selection. These are the teams that make the most sense for him and where they could take him.

Seattle Seahawks (Pick No. 25)

Perhaps the best fit for Biadasz in the 2020 NFL Draft. His forte of a downhill run blocker fits well with Seattle’s run-orientated offense. He excels more in run blocking than in pass situations so a system that is heavy on carrying the rock, like Seattle, should be familiar. Carroll likes to run it inside the tackles so Biadasz should be utilized often.

For the last decade, even with a mobile quarterback, Seattle has struggled with protecting the passer, finishing 22nd in sacks allowed this year. Biadasz’s contribution should help limit 31-year-old Russell Wilson’s mobility.

Miami Dolphins (Pick No. 26)

The Miami Dolphins are likely to address offense with all of their three first-round picks in the 2020 NFL Draft. And offensive line must be addressed with one of them.

In 2019, the Dolphins finished dead last in rushing and struggled on all levels at the offensive lineman position. Adding a new center will bring much-needed production and leadership. Without an intimidating rushing attack, they will struggle to establish the play-action for-what many hope-is a new man under center next season.

If the center-needy Seahawks do end up picking before Miami, I wouldn’t doubt that the Dolphins end up trading with them to move up a spot. Seattle has been notorious for trading on day one in the NFL Draft.

Cincinnati Bengals (Pick No. 33)

Heisman winner Joe Burrow being drafted by the Bengals already seems like second nature. And what better way to complement and protect your future franchise quarterback with a trustful lineman to snap him the ball on every play. Getting him here would be a win in my book.

NEXT: Miami Dolphins 7-round 2020 NFL mock draft
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CESAR RUIZ
Pros: Will be a true junior in 2019, but has already started 18 games in his career, including all 13 at center last season. Starting experience at right guard as a freshman. The former top ranked center recruit in the country, Ruiz shows natural reach blocks of shaded nose tackles. Strong on down blocks and allows minimal penetration that allows guards to pull behind him. Impressive player in space, easily able to gain the edge and pick up blocks in the next level. Processes pursuing defenders and quick enough to get a piece of them in space. Good size for the position at 6’4 and pushing 320 pounds. Will be one of the better athletes at his position when he declares for either the 2020 or 2021 NFL Draft.

Cons: Had inconsistent stretches last season as a true sophomore, blending into games and occasionally playing with less than ideal pad level. Can give too much initial interior penetration, though he does a good job at recoiling in order to anchor. Will need to fix that first step for the next level when he plays against more powerful, active interior defensive lineman.

Updated: 7/25/19

NEWS MENTIONS

Brad Kelly's 2020 NFL Draft Interior Offensive Line Rankings
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JAKE HANSEN
PROS: He's pretty crisp with the fundamentals, showing good quickness with his hands out of his stance and getting a punch on interior defensive linemen early on into reps. He's fairly mobile -- as you'd expect with a center. It allows him to have some lateral mobility, most specifically in pass protection in slide calls to work his frame alongside his guards and keep gaps sealed shut. He's at his best in tight quarters, where he can use his body frame to anchor and not be tasked after contact with sliding or sustaining his frame of the block. Experience lends itself well to his film -- as the games I watched featured a lot of communication on his part with fellow linemen to ensure proper calls.

CONS: For all of the mobility his shows in space, he struggles a bit when he's engaged with defenders -- too many times you'll see him kill his feet and turn over into chase mode, robbing him of a lot of his functional strength. As a result, defenders can crash across his face when he's on an island or trying to lock up defenders at the point of attack. I do think he's a touch stiff when he's tasked with reaching further landmarks out of his stance -- there's a need for his hips and pads to be aligned for him to fully recruit his core strength and stay stout at the POA.

Updated: 08/14/2019

NEWS MENTIONS

Preseason Top 5: Pac-12 Interior Offensive Linemen

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TACKLES

TREY ADAMS UW
Pass Sets - Committed to taking real estate at the snap, like his short sets and 45 degree sets to take away favorable angles and he trusts his length in transition in pass sets to flip and carry rushers around the edge. He's got requisite quickness initially to set himself favorably to frame.

Length/Extension - Plenty of length and reach -- will often ensure he's got the seal to ride rushers out along the edge. Appreciate how his strike zone has reach, but also pop, he doesn't lose power with long levers and as a result it allows him to win early and often with his hands.

Balance - Leverage is going to always be an issue at his size and you often see defenders up under his pads trying to lock out and collapse. He's strong through the core but back issues will raise questions on the longevity of high level play to out-muscle defenders without leverage.

Hand Technique - Strike timing and secondary follow up to get his hands fit on the breastplate are strong, offers necessary grip strength and initial pop to offset forward push from most comers. Will patiently wait out rushers on the fringe of his strike zone before throwing initial stab.

Power at POA - If you let him fire off the ball and attack ends in power run concepts, look out. He'll take dudes for a ride and once he gets forward push, he's got the grip strength and length to ride them fully out of the play. Will lean on his toes to compensate on far reaching blocks, though.

Football IQ - Rarely lost with stunts, twists, overloads or any other defensive change ups. Pretty technically polished as a rSenior with a lot of starting experience -- proficient in his technique and ability to establish favorable fits prior to contact, especially on island protecting the edge.

Functional Athleticism - He's smooth and controlled but not overly nimble due in large part to his stature and difficulties with keeping his center of gravity down on high hips. He's cadenced when he's playing forward but lateral situations can stress him some.

Anchor Ability - If you try to test him head up situations, you better be explosive. He'll take heavier defenders and neutralize them with hands and he's got the mass to swallow up rushes from undersized players. Explosive, long armed defenders will challenge him with speed to power, though.

Flexibility - Tight through the hips. It shows up when trying to anchor and drop hips or when trying to unlock himself to move laterally to slide or crash down at steep angles and hit preemptive landmarks. Anatomical restrictions will limit his ability to overcome lateral tightness.

Competitive Toughness - No one should be questioning toughness after coming back from several significant injuries. Tenacity and functional strength are notable plus qualities on film, especially to teams that like to reset the line of scrimmage and play forward in the run game.

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Best Trait - Length

Worst Trait - Leverage

Best Film - BYU (2019)

Worst Film - Oregon (2019)

Red Flags - Knee and Back INJ

Summary - Trey Adams is a bit of a high risk, high reward prospect. His college career has been littered with significant injures -- but if you can get past the durability issues, Adams brings requisite length, initial quickness and power at the point of attack to be a productive left tackle at the NFL level. Adams' issues in lateral situations and in deep pass sets suggest he's more favorable for a WCO offense and utilized in inside zone or gap/power rushing concepts. Potential starter at NFL level.
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MEKHI BECTON
Pass Sets - He's smooth! Appreciate how clean his feet are. Rare ability to reach his back foot on drive catch and shows really nice cadence to not overset versus speed off the edge. Shows good awareness of angles to keep his passer secure prior to contact.

Length/Extension - All the reach in the world. His punch and extension will uproot defenders and physically uproot them a few yards at a time. Pretty awesome to watch him throw hands/create space instantly with upper body power. Plenty of length to extend and run rushers past the QB.

Balance - Appreciate how he doesn't fold at the waist to chase in space. He's a bit high hipped but his dynamic lower half does well to reach and catch his momentum to prevent him from drifting. Shows good angular adjustments on the move.

Hand Technique - His punches can be a bit wild but boy are they effective. He's got probably the heaviest hands in the class, although Andrew Thomas' are cleaner. If he can convert more blows to sustained hand fits, he's going to whitewash DEs out in the run game with consistency.

Power at POA - Awesome power. Top shelf strength throughout his entire frame and unlike most big guys at this stage, he's got mobility to apply it in lateral or angular situations where his whole frame isn't aligned. He's terrific at the point of attack to create space.

Football IQ - He gets away with some overly ambitious punches due to his raw power and his sense of continuing to work up the field for work versus stopping to peel eyes back and look for where to go can improve. But the arrow here is pointing firmly up. Strong development in 2019.

Functional Athleticism - Folks this big aren't supposed to move this well. He's so fluid for a big man and as a result he'll gear down and pick off scraping LBs with ease. Have seen him work cutoff on a 1T from the backside — which is insane. The redirectional ability he displays is good for anyone.

Anchor Ability - Strong as an ox. He's so naturally strong and with the reach he has, he rarely gives up his chest and allows bodies into his frame. Even when he does, core strength and lower body power eat up most comers and he shows a good late anchor.

Flexibility - Rare mobility through his hips and shows plenty of hinge laterally to play with forcible power on turnout blocks and when looking to long-arm edge setters out from a gap. He's got good range of motion through his hips on pass sets to play with sufficient cadence.

Competitive Toughness - Love his effort level. He's working the backside with assertiveness, he's getting out onto the second level and effectively breaking down linebackers and sticking on them. He's absolutely nasty in the trenches if you keep him in tight to the LOS.

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Best Trait - Power at POA

Worst Trait - Punch Placement Consistency

Best Film - Syracuse (2019)

Worst Film - Boston College (2019)

Red Flags - None
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PRINCE TEGA WANOGHO AUBURN
Run Blocking - Best moments on tape come when he can take advantage of angles and executing zone concepts. Struggles to get everything working together (hands/hips/legs) to generate movement as a drive blocker. Has to become more deliberate about unlocking his hips, fitting his hands and keeping his feet engaged to stay square.

Pass Blocking - Has all of the tools in terms of length and mobility to be outstanding but has to make technical improvements. Inconsistent reaching set points and he’s guilty of dropping his outside foot and opening the rush angle. Base tends to narrow and he can get top heavy in his sets, leading to a lack of body control. Growth is needed but the tools are obvious.

Blocking in Space - Fluid and easy mover in space. Auburn moves him around the formation, even having him lined up in bunch sets on occasion to get him out on the perimeter. Has good reach and range overall. Strong candidate for longer pulls.

Power - Needs to get stronger and learn how to roll his hips into contact. Too many stalemates when he needs to widen gaps. Guilty of getting squeezed down and stood up by linebackers on the second level.

IQ - The Auburn offense relies on timing components with so many of its concepts and Tega Wanogho is generally on schedule. Like how he varies his strikes in pass pro. Need for technical improvements to utilize his physical gifts more consistently is needed.

Feet - Has the foot speed needed to survive at left tackle but footwork and pass sets are still a work in progress. Can get lazy with his feet and they can lag behind his upper half. Has to be more deliberate about setting and maintaining a firm base.

Hands - Love how he varies his strikes in pass protection but has to become more intentional about getting his hands fit in the run game. Grip strength is soft. Can be tardy with his hands in pass pro and allow rushers to work into his frame, robbing him of length.

Balance - Easy mover but not a smooth operator when engaged. Has a bad tendency of narrowing his base and getting top heavy which leads to folding at the waste. Contact balance is below average and he needs to improve his core strength.

Versatility - Fits best as a tackle in a zone run scheme. Not a strong candidate for a move inside to guard or at tackling in a gap/power scheme. Has upside as a run and pass blocker but shoring up his technique and getting stronger is a must.

BEST TRAIT - Length/Mobility

WORST TRAIT - Technique/Play Strength

RED FLAGS - None

NFL COMP - TJ Clemmings

Tega Wanogho is a toolsy prospect that is still new to playing football and that becomes apparent when studying his tape. While he has an ideal frame to develop, long arms and excellent functional athleticism, his technique and application of his physical gifts are very much a work in progress. Tega Wanogho has an exciting ceiling to reach should he develop and his tools make him an intriguing option. With that said, patience could be required and he profiles more as an eventual starter at tackler, ideally in a zone blocking run scheme.

NEWS MENTIONS

Prince Tega Wanogho's Stock Is on the Rise
Tuls' Takes: Top 2020 Prospect Matchups of Week 9
Brad Kelly's 2020 NFL Draft Offensive Tackle Rankings
Jordan Reid's 2020 NFL Draft Offensive Tackle Rankings
Building the 2020 Prototype: Offensive Tackle
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AUSTIN JACKSON USC

Junior who has appeared in 26 games, starting 12 of them. Big, prototypical NFL Tackle size at 6'6 310lbs with good build with thick lower body to anchor, and long arms. Good character guy who has a story on his selfless act when he gave bone marrow to his sister who suffers from a disease that causes bone marrow to stop making red blood cells.


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Positives

Raw, but good technique given his lack of starts. Initiates contact in both pass and run when he gets his hands up. Doesn't over-power opponents but has a good ability to just get the job done and does a good job of staying control and keeping his technique. Good athleticism; gets out of his stance quickly, keeps a wide base and takes good angles to drive rushers out of the play against less physical EDGE rushers. Protects against counter moves by attacking inside shoulder and gets his head across the defender's chest. Does a good job in the run and pass game coming out of his stance into a 45-degree angle to create lanes and work well in their quick passing scheme. Good feel for stunts and twists for players lined up on the LOS and stays patient before committing to help in the B gap.


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Areas For Improvement

Needs to be more physical at the POA; too much hand fighting when he needs to control the defender and ride him out of his pursuit angle. Pad level becomes an issue against more athletic EDGE rushers. Comes out of his stance upright and can't play with leverage. Allows defender to swat the hands and dip and bend around the edge. Needs a better feel for blitzers; tends to get too focused on his pre-snap assignment and leaves a free rush for late blitzers that play off the LOS.


When he does give help through the B gap, he needs to ride that block a little longer. Like I mentioned, he isn't an over-powering guy, so the chip blocks that he gives don't always throw a DL off course. Same goes for blocking on the EDGE in the run game; tends to throw the initial block, protect against the counter and not block till the whistle is blown. At times, the ball carrier hasn't even passed the LOS before he's done with his assignment and that defender makes the play for little to no gain.


Draft Stock/Player Comparison

Jackson is raw and unpolished however; he shows the potential to cement himself as a 1st round pick. Staying in school another year might bode well for him and allowing himself to gain more experience and put together better tape for a school that continues to put out NFL talent. Right now, he's a mid to late 2nd round pick that could be a draft-and-stash type player that needs some time to fine-tune everything and really develop, but given the right situation, Jackson could become a starting left or right tackle.
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Re: 2020 Offensive Line Prospects

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:07 pm
by D-train

Re: 2020 Offensive Line Prospects

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:14 pm
by Donn Beach
Can't open the Trib any longer, i figured there wasn't a question about that. That blurb about Ifedi spoke to it, Ifedi is blocked by Brown. mean that is a good thing isn't it, i was wondering about trading for him, but it seems to have worked out alright

Re: 2020 Offensive Line Prospects

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:38 pm
by D-train
The question was because of Brown's significant injury issues. Not sure why I can still open TNT.
STATUS OF THE O-LINE
Brown’s return in 2020 is a big deal to Seattle’s offensive line. His the best pass blocker on a unit that must improve in pass protection for this team to get farther than the divisional round of the playoffs next season. The last two seasons it’s been Russell Wilson scrambling around pressured more than most quarterbacks in the NFL are, or should be.

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Duane Brown describes Seahawks’ need for the running game to set up the pass protection after Rams swarm Russell Wilson

Pro Bowl left tackle Duane Brown describes Seahawks’ need for the running game to set up the pass protection after Rams swarm Russell Wilson. BY GREGG BELL
Brown and right guard D.J. Fluker are the only starters on the offensive line who are under contract for next season and completed this season on the field, not in major rehabilitation from injury.

Carroll said he wants to maintain continuity on the offensive line from 2019 to ‘20. He likes the line’s ability to run block, to keep the running game the basis of Seattle’s offense as the head coach wants.

“It is important. I hope we can keep our guys connected. I don’t want to see a big change there,” Carroll said.

“We have made good progress. We have really good young guys, a couple guys got banged up this year that you haven’t seen a whole lot. Jordan Simmons, (Demetrius) Knox, those guys coming back, the competition will really be good. Jamarco (Jones) did well (starting at guard and tackle this season). To see Phil (Haynes) play like that too, that was really, really helpful for us going forward. I think the whole group could be a really solid group coming back.

“I would like to see the guys who have been playing for us to stay with us.”

That’s going to be tough to pull off.

Right tackle Germain Ifedi is poised to become a free agent in March. That’s because the Seahawks declined last spring to exercise their fifth-year option they had on him as their first-round draft choice in 2016. That would have cost them $10.35 million for 2020. That’s almost $9 million more than Ifedi’s $1.58 million salary for this past season. So Carroll and general manager John Schneider chose to try to perhaps keep Ifedi at a lower cost for next season and beyond.

But this is the 25-year-old Ifedi’s first chance at free agency. Offensive tackles who block edge rushers are increasingly well-paid in this passer-and-protect-the-passer league. If he gets to March without an offer from the Seahawks he likes, he will shop. And if shops, he will likely leave.

The Seahawks drafted Jones from Ohio State in 2018 to be a starting tackle. He started as an injury fill-in this season at right guard and left guard, and the playoff games against the Eagles and Packers at left guard for Mike Iupati.

Iupati missed those last two games with a nerve injury in his neck. He turns 33 in May. The 10-year veteran’s one-year contract is ending. With rookie Phil Haynes making his first career start Sunday after Seattle drafted him in the fourth round last spring, Iupati is likely not returning.

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The News Tribune’s Gregg Bell on futures of Marshawn Lynch, Jadeveon Clowney, why Seahawks lost playoff game at Green Bay. BY GREGG BELL
BRITT’S SITUATION
Center Justin Britt tore ligaments in his knee in Seattle’s win at Atlanta in October. A starter since he was Seattle’s second-round draft choice in 2014, Britt has a long road to recovery.

His three-year, $27 million contract extension he signed in Aug. 2017 ends after the 2020 season, thanks to the team picking up his option for next season in the spring of 2018. Like most veteran extensions, the salary-cap charges for his extension years balloon in the final years, back-loaded to be more cap friendly up front at the start of the deal.

The Seahawks could save $8.75 million against their 2020 salary cap by releasing the 28-year-old who has been a Pro Bowl alternate for them at center after he failed at tackle then at guard his first two seasons with the team. Britt’s $11.67 million cap charge is scheduled to be the fourth-highest on the team in 2020. That’s behind only franchise pillars Wilson and Wagner then Brown, and ahead of top wide receiver Tyler Lockett.

That’s a hefty chunk of the team’s salary cap to a veteran who will be 29 and likely not on the field until late next summer or after next season begins. Recoveries from reconstructive knee surgeries generally take 9-12 months or so, and players usually don’t come back from it immediately as the same performers they were prior to the injury.

It’s the same situation the Seahawks had with Richard Sherman following his torn Achilles in Nov. 2017. Rather than absorb his $11 million salary-cap charge for 2018 as he returned for an injury as major as Britt’s, Seattle released its All-Pro cornerback and previous team cornerstone in the spring of ‘18, weeks before his 30th birthday.

Sherman is now preparing to play in Sunday’s NFC title game for the 49ers against the Packers.

It’s not entirely an all-or-nothing proposition for Britt. He could agree to renegotiate his 2020 salary to make it more cap friendly for the team. He could also reach an injury settlement of a cash payment if the team were to release him while still unfit to play.

On Monday, Carroll didn’t exactly give an ironclad promise about Britt’s future.

“I saw him the other day. He said he is making really good progress,” Carroll said. “He’s been around a lot. He’s very active in here, so we know that he’s working hard at it. He should be able to get back on normal schedule.

“After you get about five or six months into it, you have to kind of figure out what’s going on. So, I don’t know how that’s going to turn for him.”

Joey Hunt finished the season for Britt at center. Seattle’s sixth-round pick in 2016 knows the system. But he got overwhelmed and plain flattened at times by bigger defensive tackles. Hunt is due to be a restricted free agent when the 2020 league year begins in March. The Seahawks have a period in which they can tender to Hunt a qualifying offer to keep him. Another team can match that offer to sign him.

The deadline to tender restricted free agents is March 18. If the Seahawks don’t tender by then, such a player becomes an unrestricted free agent for the open market.

All of which makes Brown’s declaration he’s off “to get the body right then it’s back to the grind. Next year is ours!” even more important for the offensive line.

And the Seahawks’ 2020 season.

Re: 2020 Offensive Line Prospects

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:48 pm
by Donn Beach
thanks, yeah they send me to their subscription popup, and it seems permanent. The Times and the NYTs will cut you off on a monthly basis, but not the Trib. I can't even get to it on my cloud server, pretty bizarre

Re: 2020 Offensive Line Prospects

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:59 pm
by ThePro
They need to draft Brown's heir apparent now. ..don't wait til he's retired and start looking. Fant is ok but Wilson deserves better than ok. If they don't come away with Center and at least one tackle (Should be two) I'll be pissed.

Re: 2020 Offensive Line Prospects

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:24 pm
by Michael K.
Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:48 pm
thanks, yeah they send me to their subscription popup, and it seems permanent. The Times and the NYTs will cut you off on a monthly basis, but not the Trib. I can't even get to it on my cloud server, pretty bizarre
Pro Tip. I recently cancelled my Times subscription. I had a subscription with the PI back in 1997...kept that until they went out of business and had the Times until just last week. Just not worth it. So, now I get the notice from the Times that I have surpassed the number of free articles I can read for the month. Close the browser and open it back up. That usually works. If it doesn't? Clear your history and do it again.

Re: 2020 Offensive Line Prospects

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:26 pm
by D-train
Michael K. wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:24 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:48 pm
thanks, yeah they send me to their subscription popup, and it seems permanent. The Times and the NYTs will cut you off on a monthly basis, but not the Trib. I can't even get to it on my cloud server, pretty bizarre
Pro Tip. I recently cancelled my Times subscription. I had a subscription with the PI back in 1997...kept that until they went out of business and had the Times until just last week. Just not worth it. So, now I get the notice from the Times that I have surpassed the number of free articles I can read for the month. Close the browser and open it back up. That usually works. If it doesn't? Clear your history and do it again.
I just cancelled my delivery of the Times after about 30 years. Over $600 a year. lol I will now just have online access but my ditch that if your tip works.

Re: 2020 Offensive Line Prospects

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:29 pm
by Donn Beach
Michael K. wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:24 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:48 pm
thanks, yeah they send me to their subscription popup, and it seems permanent. The Times and the NYTs will cut you off on a monthly basis, but not the Trib. I can't even get to it on my cloud server, pretty bizarre
Pro Tip. I recently cancelled my Times subscription. I had a subscription with the PI back in 1997...kept that until they went out of business and had the Times until just last week. Just not worth it. So, now I get the notice from the Times that I have surpassed the number of free articles I can read for the month. Close the browser and open it back up. That usually works. If it doesn't? Clear your history and do it again.
yeah, you can clear cookies, or run it through a VPN, i actually have a cloud server i can use, but nothing seems to work with the Trib, its actually pretty strange

Re: 2020 Offensive Line Prospects

Posted: Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:35 pm
by D-train
Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:29 pm
Michael K. wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 5:24 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Thu Jan 16, 2020 4:48 pm
thanks, yeah they send me to their subscription popup, and it seems permanent. The Times and the NYTs will cut you off on a monthly basis, but not the Trib. I can't even get to it on my cloud server, pretty bizarre
Pro Tip. I recently cancelled my Times subscription. I had a subscription with the PI back in 1997...kept that until they went out of business and had the Times until just last week. Just not worth it. So, now I get the notice from the Times that I have surpassed the number of free articles I can read for the month. Close the browser and open it back up. That usually works. If it doesn't? Clear your history and do it again.
yeah, you can clear cookies, or run it through a VPN, i actually have a cloud server i can use, but nothing seems to work with the Trib, its actually pretty strange
Maybe I should call their people to get ideas on how to block spam! btw you remind me of the Astros trying to cheat the system. :P