What's the deal Hawks?

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Re: What's the deal Hawks?

Post by D-train » Sat Mar 21, 2020 10:01 pm

ThePro wrote:
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Britt was drafted 6 years ago and has had ONE decent season. Kick his ass to the curb.
If Hawks don't draft a Center. If they dance around Biadasz and Ruiz etc.. like they have the '92 Cowboys Oline. If they roll with Britt and Hunt again. I will absolutely lose my shit.
Terrible situation especially during a Toilet paper shortage!
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he-he :lol:

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Re: What's the deal Hawks?

Post by D-train » Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:58 pm

Very difficult times in Seattle and the announcement of a Clowney signing would give millions of Hawks fans a nice little emotional boost and the Hawks are F-ing around quibbling over a couple mil and risking losing him.
According to Forbes, the Seahawks generated $413 million in revenue last year and had an operating income of $71 million.
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Re: What's the deal Hawks?

Post by ThePro » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:05 pm

D-train wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:58 pm
Very difficult times in Seattle and the announcement of a Clowney signing would give millions of Hawks fans a nice little emotional boost and the Hawks are F-ing around quibbling over a couple mil and risking losing him.
According to Forbes, the Seahawks generated $413 million in revenue last year and had an operating income of $71 million.
I believe it's more than "quibbling over a couple mil" . It's the guaranteed money.

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Re: What's the deal Hawks?

Post by 57reasons » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:12 pm

D-train wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:58 pm
Very difficult times in Seattle and the announcement of a Clowney signing would give millions of Hawks fans a nice little emotional boost and the Hawks are F-ing around quibbling over a couple mil and risking losing him.
According to Forbes, the Seahawks generated $413 million in revenue last year and had an operating income of $71 million.
but what if those couple mill are the difference between being able to add a slot corner or not? and dont forget how much they value the flexibility of saving some cap dollars for roster upgrades after final preseason cuts or midseason acquisitions (Quandry Diggs - Exhibit A). That's worth waiting for imho. i have to assume at this point that they are very confident in their chances of retaining Clowney, that the competing market just isnt there, and thus they can afford to milk it for maximum value rather than secure a good deal right now. If wrong and they blow this, then yes they deserve the criticism.

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Re: What's the deal Hawks?

Post by D-train » Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:29 pm

57reasons wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 4:12 pm
D-train wrote:
Sun Mar 22, 2020 3:58 pm
Very difficult times in Seattle and the announcement of a Clowney signing would give millions of Hawks fans a nice little emotional boost and the Hawks are F-ing around quibbling over a couple mil and risking losing him.
According to Forbes, the Seahawks generated $413 million in revenue last year and had an operating income of $71 million.
but what if those couple mill are the difference between being able to add a slot corner or not? and dont forget how much they value the flexibility of saving some cap dollars for roster upgrades after final preseason cuts or midseason acquisitions (Quandry Diggs - Exhibit A). That's worth waiting for imho. i have to assume at this point that they are very confident in their chances of retaining Clowney, that the competing market just isnt there, and thus they can afford to milk it for maximum value rather than secure a good deal right now. If wrong and they blow this, then yes they deserve the criticism.
If they cut Britt, Dickson and Thompson they will have plenty of space for JC, another pass rusher and the nickel. Zero chance their is a better way to spend the 2 mil than lock down JC.
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Re: What's the deal Hawks?

Post by D-train » Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:07 pm

PFF gives Hawks Below average grade for FA. Cards got Average. Rams also below average. 49ers Above average.
SEATTLE SEAHAWKS
Additions/players brought back:
TE Greg Olsen (signed for one year, $7 million)

DI Jarran Reed (re-signed for two years, $23 million)

EDGE Bruce Irvin (signed)

TE Jacob Hollister (second-round tender)

C B.J. Finney (signed for two years, $8 million)

T Cedric Ogbuehi (signed)

T Brandon Shell (signed)

Losses:
DI Quinton Jefferson

EDGE Ezekiel Ansah

T Germain Ifedi

WR Josh Gordon

T George Fant

G Mike Iupati

Quarterback Russell Wilson can't make magic outside the pocket forever. At some point, he'll need a stout offensive line in front of him, but the Seahawks had the opposite of that in 2019 and actually ranked 30th in pass-blocking grade. Instead of replacing their subpar tackles with at least somewhat reliable ones, they replaced them with other subpar tackles.

In his three seasons starting at right tackle for the Jets, Brandon Shell has never cracked the top 50 in PFF pass-block grade. Cedric Ogbuehi, on the other hand, has logged only 957 pass-blocking snaps in his five-year career and produced a pass-blocking grade that ranks 83rd of 87 qualifying tackles.

B.J. Finney could end up a solid add on the interior of the line, though. He has a very limited sample size as a pass protector (he has recorded just 591 pass-block snaps in his four seasons), but he still owns a pass-blocking grade that would rank among the 15 best interior offensive linemen.

FREE AGENCY GRADE: BELOW AVERAGE
https://www.pff.com/news/nfl-2020-nfl-f ... l-32-teams
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Re: What's the deal Hawks?

Post by 57reasons » Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:11 am

D-train wrote:
Mon Mar 23, 2020 11:07 pm
PFF gives Hawks Below average grade for FA. Cards got Average. Rams also below average. 49ers Above average.
so i guess free agency is over then? somebody should have told Schneider that if he signs Clowney after the PFF grades it doesnt count and he wont get to play. asleep at the wheel again missing that new rule change. :oops:

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Re: What's the deal Hawks?

Post by ThePro » Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:29 am

57reasons wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:11 am


so i guess free agency is over then? somebody should have told Schneider that if he signs Clowney after the PFF grades it doesnt count and he wont get to play. asleep at the wheel again missing that new rule change. :oops:
They didn't give them a below average rating for not signing Clowney. They gave it to them for signing the crap Olinemen.

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Re: What's the deal Hawks?

Post by 57reasons » Thu Mar 26, 2020 12:48 am

ThePro wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:29 am
57reasons wrote:
Wed Mar 25, 2020 12:11 am


so i guess free agency is over then? somebody should have told Schneider that if he signs Clowney after the PFF grades it doesnt count and he wont get to play. asleep at the wheel again missing that new rule change. :oops:
They didn't give them a below average rating for not signing Clowney. They gave it to them for signing the crap Olinemen.
but i believe it was you yourself that admitted in other posts that the recent "crap OL" contracts were all low risk no dead-money guaranteed, so perhaps not particularly positive, but not a negative either. Also you have to factor in the trade for Dunbar - no reason to parse that out separately if you ask me.

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