Patriots sign Cam

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Re: Patriots sign Cam

Post by D-train » Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:42 pm

This is the incident that I remember most about him.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2016/02/11/cam-n ... nthers-nfl
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Re: Patriots sign Cam

Post by ThePro » Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:53 pm

D-train wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:42 pm
This is the incident that I remember most about him.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2016/02/11/cam-n ... nthers-nfl
Ok but is that an "incident" ? Does that justify less accomplished QBs getting more money?

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Re: Patriots sign Cam

Post by D-train » Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:10 pm

ThePro wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:53 pm
D-train wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 1:42 pm
This is the incident that I remember most about him.

https://www.si.com/nfl/2016/02/11/cam-n ... nthers-nfl
Ok but is that an "incident" ? Does that justify less accomplished QBs getting more money?
Just saying there is more to the equation than just pure football talent. Not comparing him to Clowney, Gordon or AB but there is a reason those guys will make far less than what they would make if talent on the field was the only consideration. 31 other teams could have beat the Pats offer and didn't think he was worth it.
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Re: Patriots sign Cam

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:39 pm

the Pats got a deal, doubt that indecent had anything to do with it. Cam's injuries, the situation with competing clubs, but probably COVID had the most to do with it. Cam basically fell in their laps.

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Re: Patriots sign Cam

Post by D-train » Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:48 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:39 pm
the Pats got a deal, doubt that indecent had anything to do with it. Cam's injuries, the situation with competing clubs, but probably COVID had the most to do with it. Cam basically fell in their laps.
Maybe Cam has spent the last 20 years fantasizing about playing for BB. Who knows everything that came into play.
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Re: Patriots sign Cam

Post by ThePro » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:04 pm

D-train wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:10 pm


Just saying there is more to the equation than just pure football talent. Not comparing him to Clowney, Gordon or AB but there is a reason those guys will make far less than what they would make if talent on the field was the only consideration. 31 other teams could have beat the Pats offer and didn't think he was worth it.
31 other teams don't need a QB. The ones that did paid more for lesser QBs. So it's not a matter of teams "Thinking he's worth it"

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Re: Patriots sign Cam

Post by D-train » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:21 pm

ThePro wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:04 pm
D-train wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:10 pm


Just saying there is more to the equation than just pure football talent. Not comparing him to Clowney, Gordon or AB but there is a reason those guys will make far less than what they would make if talent on the field was the only consideration. 31 other teams could have beat the Pats offer and didn't think he was worth it.
31 other teams don't need a QB. The ones that did paid more for lesser QBs. So it's not a matter of teams "Thinking he's worth it"
Maybe when they considered everything they felt he was the lesser QB. What is the other possibility?
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Re: Patriots sign Cam

Post by Michael K. » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:29 pm

ThePro wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:04 pm
D-train wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 2:10 pm


Just saying there is more to the equation than just pure football talent. Not comparing him to Clowney, Gordon or AB but there is a reason those guys will make far less than what they would make if talent on the field was the only consideration. 31 other teams could have beat the Pats offer and didn't think he was worth it.
31 other teams don't need a QB. The ones that did paid more for lesser QBs. So it's not a matter of teams "Thinking he's worth it"
So, in other words, the market dictated what he was worth?

Cam said people didn't like him celebrating because he was black, he was only having fun. He made it about race, not me. He walked the remark back, but trust me...people hated him for the same reason people hate Baker. Then there was the time he laughed at the female reporter because it was weird to talk football with a woman. Then there was the pouty little baby act when he wasn't winning anymore. All he wanted us to believe was he acted like an ass on the field because he was having fun playing the game. Then don't act like a baby the next few years you are getting your ass kicked.

That was distracting off the field because it was talked about, a lot. He is no longer good enough to justify it. Or the distraction it would be to have him backing up your starter. Had to be the right fit. In other words, the market dictated his worth.

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Re: Patriots sign Cam

Post by ThePro » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:40 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:29 pm


So, in other words, the market dictated what he was worth?

Cam said people didn't like him celebrating because he was black, he was only having fun. He made it about race, not me. He walked the remark back, but trust me...people hated him for the same reason people hate Baker. Then there was the time he laughed at the female reporter because it was weird to talk football with a woman. Then there was the pouty little baby act when he wasn't winning anymore. All he wanted us to believe was he acted like an ass on the field because he was having fun playing the game. Then don't act like a baby the next few years you are getting your ass kicked.

That was distracting off the field because it was talked about, a lot. He is no longer good enough to justify it. Or the distraction it would be to have him backing up your starter. Had to be the right fit. In other words, the market dictated his worth.
None of those actions effected his contract. That's just your personal dislike of him. His contract is well below market value for a starting QB with his resume.

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Re: Patriots sign Cam

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Jul 01, 2020 3:49 pm

Nobody was going to pay him extra to be a backup, and no other team needed him to come in and compete as a starter like the Pats, so they got a deal by waiting him out. If RW suddenly wasn't available this season, you wouldn't want to consider Cam to fill in because he pouted? I would think the way you love winning, that the last thing you would want was an organization being dictated by who hates on players.

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