Add Ben Baldwin to the how do these guys get paid list

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Add Ben Baldwin to the how do these guys get paid list

Post by D-train » Sat Aug 08, 2020 6:27 pm

From his The Athletic piece.
Inside the numbers: Could elite safeties be NFL’s latest market inefficiency?
Let’s get one thing out of the way first: If I were a decision-maker for the Seahawks, I would not have traded for Jamal Adams.

Seattle’s window of contention will last as long as Russell Wilson is a top-tier quarterback, and if the recent examples of Tom Brady and Drew Brees are anything to go by, that could be for a decade or more. Trading away two first-round picks will probably harm the team for a good chunk of that time in return for making the Seahawks better in the immediate future. The likelihood of drafting a star wide receiver or offensive tackle to pair with Wilson for the long term is now lower. Like the ill-fated Sheldon Richardson trade, this reflects a mindset of Win Now, not “Win Forever.”

With that out of the way, I’ve talked myself into believing the trade to be not as disastrous as I initially thought. Let’s see if you agree with me by the end.
Hawks drafting a star WR or OT in the 1st round. :lol:
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Post by ThePro » Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:23 pm

"Drafting a star WR" ..he really hasn't been paying attention.

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Re: Add Ben Baldwin to the how do these guys get paid list

Post by D-train » Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:38 pm

ThePro wrote:
Sat Aug 08, 2020 7:23 pm
"Drafting a star WR" ..he really hasn't been paying attention.
Yeah, literally the last thing we need right now, especially when we sign Gordon. I thought he was a respected NFL writer. wtf
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Re: Add Ben Baldwin to the how do these guys get paid list

Post by D-train » Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:01 am

D-train ain't afraid to call these bitches out.

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I had to chuckle at your piece stating that the Hawks were missing out on drafting an elite OT or WR by trading their first round picks for Adams. They haven't picked an elite OT since Walter Jones and have never picked an Elite WR in the first round.
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Re: Add Ben Baldwin to the how do these guys get paid list

Post by Bil522 » Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:32 am

D-train wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:01 am
D-train ain't afraid to call these bitches out.

Ben Baldwin
@benbbaldwin
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10m
Who's going to play nickel corn- oh, right
D-Train
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I had to chuckle at your piece stating that the Hawks were missing out on drafting an elite OT or WR by trading their first round picks for Adams. They haven't picked an elite OT since Walter Jones and have never picked an Elite WR in the first round.
Russell Okung was elite-ish.....ok better than most
Joey Galloway was elite....they did get back 2 #1's for him

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Re: Add Ben Baldwin to the how do these guys get paid list

Post by ThePro » Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:38 am

D-train wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:01 am
D-train ain't afraid to call these bitches out.

Ben Baldwin
@benbbaldwin
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10m
Who's going to play nickel corn- oh, right
D-Train
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I had to chuckle at your piece stating that the Hawks were missing out on drafting an elite OT or WR by trading their first round picks for Adams. They haven't picked an elite OT since Walter Jones and have never picked an Elite WR in the first round.
:lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

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Re: Add Ben Baldwin to the how do these guys get paid list

Post by D-train » Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:39 am

Bil522 wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:32 am
D-train wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:01 am
D-train ain't afraid to call these bitches out.

Ben Baldwin
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Who's going to play nickel corn- oh, right
D-Train
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I had to chuckle at your piece stating that the Hawks were missing out on drafting an elite OT or WR by trading their first round picks for Adams. They haven't picked an elite OT since Walter Jones and have never picked an Elite WR in the first round.
Russell Okung was elite-ish.....ok better than most
Joey Galloway was elite....they did get back 2 #1's for him
Wrong on Okung. Yes good call on Galloway, I knew I had to be forgetting someone. And this someone was drafted when when John Schneider was 24 yo intern for the Packers and PC was unemployed after getting fired by the Jets.
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Re: Add Ben Baldwin to the how do these guys get paid list

Post by Donn Beach » Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:47 am

kind of falls along the debate over to trade up in the draft seems to me...Hawks don't tend to concentrate their draft stock in a single draft choice, but on the other hand, have been willing to use them on more short term solutions with veteran players

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Post by D-train » Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:50 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Sun Aug 09, 2020 1:47 am
kind of falls along the debate over to trade up in the draft seems to me...Hawks don't tend to concentrate their draft stock in a single draft choice, but on the other hand, have been willing to use them on more short term solutions with veteran players
Like I have said, the most brilliant and difficult thing a human can do is recognize their weakness, admit it and take steps to mitigate it. Can't express how much I respect them for making that trade.
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Post by Donn Beach » Sun Aug 09, 2020 2:03 am

I know the criticism is they don't get out of the first round of the playoffs. But to me its a pretty remarkable blend of evolving the team, keeping it young, as well as being considered to be going for it season after season.

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