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Re: Official NFL Mock Draft Simulator Thread - Post Your Mock Drafts!
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:12 pm
by Sibelius Hindemith
From the wikipedia article DB posted i would then conclude the term really shouldn't be used to refer to a position on a roster. That's where the confusion arises. No-one is exclusively an "edge" rusher, they are a any defender that lines up just outside the tackles and near the los.
Re: Official NFL Mock Draft Simulator Thread - Post Your Mock Drafts!
Posted: Wed Mar 20, 2024 4:44 pm
by Donn Beach
Much of how guys classify at the combine comes down to how they were used on defense in college. That being said, defenders who rarely drop into coverage are generally called defensive ends even if they are light like OLBs. Enter the term, “edge defender”.
This term was created to denote guys who are the best on the team at rushing the passer - from the edge of the OL. Of course, that doesn’t mean that you can’t move them around and use them in the A or B gap, but in general they are going to be found in a 7 or 9 position (C or D gap) attacking the tackle or the tight end (if he stays to block) on a pass play.
The NFL doesn’t recognize “edge defender” as a position so edge guys are either defensive ends or linebackers for the purposes of franchise tags. The franchise tag value for a “linebacker” in 2023 is 20.9 million, which is second only to QB at 32.4 million. WR and DE both come in at 19.7 million. Using franchise tag money, the NFL says that edge defenders are second only to QBs in terms of value to the team.
https://www.milehighreport.com/2023/4/1 ... linebacker
Re: Official NFL Mock Draft Simulator Thread - Post Your Mock Drafts!
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 8:25 pm
by Seattle or Bust
Interesting one...
Re: Official NFL Mock Draft Simulator Thread - Post Your Mock Drafts!
Posted: Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:08 pm
by Sibelius Hindemith
Can Murphy fit as a 3-4 nose tackle? Seems like he is more of a Williams type of DT.
Re: Official NFL Mock Draft Simulator Thread - Post Your Mock Drafts!
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:06 am
by 57reasons
Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Sun Mar 24, 2024 9:08 pm
Can Murphy fit as a 3-4 nose tackle? Seems like he is more of a Williams type of DT.
same weight but Big Cat is taller, so Murphy a little thicker, thus better suited to NT. both are good run D tackles, but as you say, not the perfect NT in a true 3-4. that why i'm more interested in his former linemate Sweat for this current roster - a true NT if there ever was one.
Re: Official NFL Mock Draft Simulator Thread - Post Your Mock Drafts!
Posted: Mon Mar 25, 2024 5:11 am
by Sibelius Hindemith
It seems Murphy is considered the better of the two overall, probably because of his ability to pressure the QB. In the simulations Sweat seems to fall into the 2nd round almost every time. But his size is more in line with a 3-4 NT.
Re: Official NFL Mock Draft Simulator Thread - Post Your Mock Drafts!
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:21 pm
by Michael K.
Kind of an April Fools thing, since I highly doubt we draft Penix. But I don't hate the idea.
Re: Official NFL Mock Draft Simulator Thread - Post Your Mock Drafts!
Posted: Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:29 pm
by D-train
Can't believe he was there at 36. He will go in the first round after his combine and Pro Day.
Re: Official NFL Mock Draft Simulator Thread - Post Your Mock Drafts!
Posted: Tue Apr 02, 2024 4:51 pm
by Michael K.
D-train wrote: ↑Mon Apr 01, 2024 10:29 pm
Can't believe he was there at 36. He will go in the first round after his combine and Pro Day.
I agree. Nix was available as well. Nix was also available when I took Newton a few picks later, but I don't remember when he went. I wouldn't take Nix at all. Not sold on him one bit. The dude never threw down field, and when asked at the combine or his Pro Day or whatever? He didn't look good.
Re: Official NFL Mock Draft Simulator Thread - Post Your Mock Drafts!
Posted: Fri Apr 05, 2024 8:36 pm
by D-train
