Multiple-team ties If three or more teams are tied atop a division at the end of the season, the following criteria are used to eliminate teams until just two teams remain, at which point the two-team tiebreaking procedure is used.
Head-to-head results (best record in games between tied teams)
Record in intra-divisional games
Record against the next highest placed team in the division (based on the record in all conference games), proceeding through the division
Record in common conference games
Highest ranking in SportSource Analytics poll entering the final weekend of the regular season
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wait, where does the standing in the Seattle Sports Forums come in on this list? should be above that last one at least!D-train wrote: ↑Thu Sep 26, 2019 7:27 pmMultiple-team ties If three or more teams are tied atop a division at the end of the season, the following criteria are used to eliminate teams until just two teams remain, at which point the two-team tiebreaking procedure is used.
Head-to-head results (best record in games between tied teams)
Record in intra-divisional games
Record against the next highest placed team in the division (based on the record in all conference games), proceeding through the division
Record in common conference games
Highest ranking in SportSource Analytics poll entering the final weekend of the regular season
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Isn't it a given that their record in intra-divisional games would be the same, hence the "tie"?
And since the likely scenario would be three teams with one conference loss where A defeated B, B defeated C, and C defeated A, their records against "the next highest placed team in the division" would be the same, right?
And of course their records against common conference opponents would be the same.
So..... this "Sportsource analytics poll" would have to be the tie-breaker.
And since the likely scenario would be three teams with one conference loss where A defeated B, B defeated C, and C defeated A, their records against "the next highest placed team in the division" would be the same, right?
And of course their records against common conference opponents would be the same.
So..... this "Sportsource analytics poll" would have to be the tie-breaker.
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well Cal did their part last night, losing to ASU. have to hope Utah wins out (except for us), and then we beat them in the Pac12 champ game as well. and if Oregon also wins out except for us, then you have 3 quality wins in conference, 4 or 5 if you count ASU and/or USC. WSU doesnt look like a quality win anymore after epic meltdown to the Bruins. but with all the quality Top 10 teams, still looks like Rose Bowl is the ceiling this year. maybe next year if by some miracle Eason comes back.
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No the tie is based on games against all Pac-12 opponents not just intra divisionalSibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:17 amIsn't it a given that their record in intra-divisional games would be the same, hence the "tie"?
And since the likely scenario would be three teams with one conference loss where A defeated B, B defeated C, and C defeated A, their records against "the next highest placed team in the division" would be the same, right?
And of course their records against common conference opponents would be the same.
So..... this "Sportsource analytics poll" would have to be the tie-breaker.
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Right, but my scenario is that the 3-way tie is between UW, Cal, and either Oregon or WSU where each team beat one of the other two and their records are 8-1 in conference. In that case, they would all have 1 loss in intra-divisional games by necessity.D-train wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 6:18 pmNo the tie is based on games against all Pac-12 opponents not just intra divisionalSibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Sat Sep 28, 2019 2:17 amIsn't it a given that their record in intra-divisional games would be the same, hence the "tie"?
And since the likely scenario would be three teams with one conference loss where A defeated B, B defeated C, and C defeated A, their records against "the next highest placed team in the division" would be the same, right?
And of course their records against common conference opponents would be the same.
So..... this "Sportsource analytics poll" would have to be the tie-breaker.
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Well, with Cal losing to ASU my scenario just went out the door.
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Yeah but usually works itself out. We just need Utah to be Cal and us to win out we're good to go
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that is very plausible, though i think Oregon beats Utah. but even then we're good as long as we win out - Cal probably gonna lose at least two between Oregon, Utah and SC. The league is starting to sort itself out the way everyone thought with UW, UO, and Utah at the top, though just a bit disappointing for each with the 1 early loss.
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Don't sleep on the Sun Devils. The way I see it, Huskies should get quality wins from USC (today), Oregon t10, Utah t15, then P12 Champ either USC, Utah or Ariz St all of which would likely be t15. So coupled with the BYU win (top 30), we could see a team 12-1 with 4 t20 wins, a t30 win and a P12 title to boot. Just need a little help at the top. Either 2 losses for B10 champ or 2 losses for B12 champ.