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Re: POLL: Biden or Trump?

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:38 pm
by auroraave
D-train wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 1:47 pm
The only place it matters is the swing States. Cracks me up how people in Seattle scream telling people to vote for change. So that means they all have to vote red then right
it's the ultimate irony how every candidate, and Obama in particular, run on this 'change' platform, get elected, and literally nothing changes. Then Trump gets elected, it is literal change because he is not a politician with decades of partisan roots, and the first thing that happens is the same people screaming for change can't handle the actual change. They literally want to vote for the same exact thing that have put us in this compromised position. Whether or not you like Trump - he IS change. he may not be the guy you like, but he's the guy you need. He's opening up eyes everywhere to what politics is really all about. Nancy Pelosi will literally let people starve instead of approving the stimulus package before the election, lest Trump get any credit at all. That is unconscionable. Even her own constituents and the ultra-biased media are pressing her to pass this thing. How can anyone not want a change from THAT? Well, guess what, that's exactly what Trump is. He has plenty of flaws, for sure, but he hasn't been this false advertising campaign of 'change' for decades that is corrupt, mismanaged, and never held accountable. Well, now they are being held accountable - right in front of our eyes. Pelosi and the dems are being exposed - they can't hide what they are doing anymore. You think this would be happening under a Hillary regime? Please. You should be thanking the stars the curtain is being pulled back and the shit heads are being exposed.

Nancy Pelosi, Biden, Obama, Hillary are the 'change' people that literally never change anything because the system rewards them for it - they are enriched beyond our wildest dreams through corruption. Of course they don't want 'change'. It's the ultimate hypocrisy. It's silly sloganeering so they can continue to pick you pocket and sell off this country to China. Trump has actually changed things. The irony is so thick. No one said it would be easy, change seldom is, but sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture to see the actual progress is happening in slow increments - but not under lifetime politicians - it's happening under Trump. You may not like it, and you can chose to not believe it, but that simply does not make it untrue.

Re: POLL: Biden or Trump?

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 6:57 pm
by bpj
auroraave wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 4:38 pm
D-train wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 1:47 pm
The only place it matters is the swing States. Cracks me up how people in Seattle scream telling people to vote for change. So that means they all have to vote red then right
it's the ultimate irony how every candidate, and Obama in particular, run on this 'change' platform, get elected, and literally nothing changes. Then Trump gets elected, it is literal change because he is not a politician with decades of partisan roots, and the first thing that happens is the same people screaming for change can't handle the actual change. They literally want to vote for the same exact thing that have put us in this compromised position. Whether or not you like Trump - he IS change. he may not be the guy you like, but he's the guy you need. He's opening up eyes everywhere to what politics is really all about. Nancy Pelosi will literally let people starve instead of approving the stimulus package before the election, lest Trump get any credit at all. That is unconscionable. Even her own constituents and the ultra-biased media are pressing her to pass this thing. How can anyone not want a change from THAT? Well, guess what, that's exactly what Trump is. He has plenty of flaws, for sure, but he hasn't been this false advertising campaign of 'change' for decades that is corrupt, mismanaged, and never held accountable. Well, now they are being held accountable - right in front of our eyes. Pelosi and the dems are being exposed - they can't hide what they are doing anymore. You think this would be happening under a Hillary regime? Please. You should be thanking the stars the curtain is being pulled back and the shit heads are being exposed.

Nancy Pelosi, Biden, Obama, Hillary are the 'change' people that literally never change anything because the system rewards them for it - they are enriched beyond our wildest dreams through corruption. Of course they don't want 'change'. It's the ultimate hypocrisy. It's silly sloganeering so they can continue to pick you pocket and sell off this country to China. Trump has actually changed things. The irony is so thick. No one said it would be easy, change seldom is, but sometimes you have to look at the bigger picture to see the actual progress is happening in slow increments - but not under lifetime politicians - it's happening under Trump. You may not like it, and you can chose to not believe it, but that simply does not make it untrue.
Man, I don't know where all you level headed mf'ers are coming from, but this is a beautiful post.

Re: POLL: Biden or Trump?

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 7:17 pm
by D-train
:lol: agreed!

Re: POLL: Biden or Trump?

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:41 pm
by D-train
I assumed this pool was who you want to win not who you think will win right?

Re: POLL: Biden or Trump?

Posted: Sat Oct 17, 2020 11:28 pm
by bpj
D-train wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 9:41 pm
I assumed this pool was who you want to win not who you think will win right?
Yeah, why not see what they think will happen! Plus, 90% of the libs have me foe'd, so at least they'll see the post 🤣

Re: POLL: Biden or Trump?

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 4:14 pm
by seattlefan-daBronx
I'm very encouraged to see my Seattle brothers totally awake now.
Here in NYC it's blue or death. Upstate and Long Island have a strong Trump following.
Many in the city are just uneducated and only believe what they see on television, CNN, MSNBC, ect.
The minorities here have decades of brainwashing that they are no good and the Republicans are the Devil.
Some are just bat-sh*t crazy liberal white woman and college kids with nothing better to do.
The Unions are very powerful in NYC and people are afraid of losing their jobs, pensions, ect.
But the cops here get it. They endorsed Trump for the first time ever. LAW & ORDER.
Trump is going to get a huge boost this round with black and latino voters. I say over 20 percent this time with blacks.
Many democrats will vote for Trump just because their eyes are opening to the Globalist plan and they don't want Socialism.
America is on the edge no doubt.
Is the left wing mob willing to burn it down to get their power back? The next few month will be epic!
Please Trump fire Barr post election and put these traitorous criminals in jail and see how the rebels will flee!

Re: POLL: Biden or Trump?

Posted: Sun Oct 18, 2020 7:15 pm
by D-train

Re: POLL: Biden or Trump?

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:58 pm
by ddraig
BaseHitDerby wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:55 am
A problem with the polls is that they oversample Democrats so Biden and Killary are always winning. An example of a bias poll is this one where most of the people on here are Republicans so it doesn't portray the actual demographics of this country.
Dems are usually oversampled by 6%. So if you take a closer look at most of the polls and subtract 6% from Biden's totals, you are going to come out with a closer estimate of the November 3 voting. And the polls don't sample new voters, which are going heavily for Trump. I would not be surprised with a 56%-44% Trump/Biden split when the dust settles.

Re: POLL: Biden or Trump?

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:32 pm
by auroraave
ddraig wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:58 pm
BaseHitDerby wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:55 am
A problem with the polls is that they oversample Democrats so Biden and Killary are always winning. An example of a bias poll is this one where most of the people on here are Republicans so it doesn't portray the actual demographics of this country.
Dems are usually oversampled by 6%. So if you take a closer look at most of the polls and subtract 6% from Biden's totals, you are going to come out with a closer estimate of the November 3 voting. And the polls don't sample new voters, which are going heavily for Trump. I would not be surprised with a 56%-44% Trump/Biden split when the dust settles.

I am a registered independent. in '16 I voted for Johnson and the Libertarians. I just dropped my ballot off at BH City Hall - I'm voting Trump. I think he has had strong policies and is not a lifetime politician - and, perhaps more importantly, I will vote to anyone that pushes us further away from the left. I have just never seen such a damaging group of people in my life and it's not even close. Pelosi's stunning display of anti-Americanism is beyond unacceptable. Biden stands for nothing politically - his game is cronyism. Harris stands for nothing except the want for unearned power. I wish Trump would polish his words and lead with much more humbleness and humility - if he did, a landslide win would probably be record setting. People are dying for someone to stand out. All Trump has to do is shut up and play ball above the fray, take the high road. he's gotten better as he's grown into the role, but I really want to see him be a better man. I will take him at his worst over anything the Dems trot out. The damage they are willing to do to grab power - I think will damage their party for years. Instead of their campaign of hate and fearmongering and going scorched earth with riots - why not just trot out a good candidate? They failed on an epic scale in '16. they failed on an epic scale in '20. makes you wonder - who do they actually they represent with these horrifying candidates they nominate? Oh, right...

Themselves.

Re: POLL: Biden or Trump?

Posted: Tue Oct 20, 2020 9:10 pm
by D-train
auroraave wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 8:32 pm
ddraig wrote:
Tue Oct 20, 2020 7:58 pm
BaseHitDerby wrote:
Sat Oct 17, 2020 2:55 am
A problem with the polls is that they oversample Democrats so Biden and Killary are always winning. An example of a bias poll is this one where most of the people on here are Republicans so it doesn't portray the actual demographics of this country.
Dems are usually oversampled by 6%. So if you take a closer look at most of the polls and subtract 6% from Biden's totals, you are going to come out with a closer estimate of the November 3 voting. And the polls don't sample new voters, which are going heavily for Trump. I would not be surprised with a 56%-44% Trump/Biden split when the dust settles.

I am a registered independent. in '16 I voted for Johnson and the Libertarians. I just dropped my ballot off at BH City Hall - I'm voting Trump. I think he has had strong policies and is not a lifetime politician - and, perhaps more importantly, I will vote to anyone that pushes us further away from the left. I have just never seen such a damaging group of people in my life and it's not even close. Pelosi's stunning display of anti-Americanism is beyond unacceptable. Biden stands for nothing politically - his game is cronyism. Harris stands for nothing except the want for unearned power. I wish Trump would polish his words and lead with much more humbleness and humility - if he did, a landslide win would probably be record setting. People are dying for someone to stand out. All Trump has to do is shut up and play ball above the fray, take the high road. he's gotten better as he's grown into the role, but I really want to see him be a better man. I will take him at his worst over anything the Dems trot out. The damage they are willing to do to grab power - I think will damage their party for years. Instead of their campaign of hate and fearmongering and going scorched earth with riots - why not just trot out a good candidate? They failed on an epic scale in '16. they failed on an epic scale in '20. makes you wonder - who do they actually they represent with these horrifying candidates they nominate? Oh, right...

Themselves.
Same on both.