The 2024 season

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Re: The 2024 season

Post by D-train » Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:29 pm

Looking at rosters of @NBA the white American basketball player is pretty much extinct! Sure there are guys in the developmental league l that probably should be on major league teams but it doesn’t happen. 18% is terrible. There is a lot of talk about it but the trending is off.
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Re: The 2024 season

Post by D-train » Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:12 pm

Good God how did I never hear about this???????????
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Re: The 2024 season

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:15 pm

D-train wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:29 pm
Looking at rosters of @NBA the white American basketball player is pretty much extinct! Sure there are guys in the developmental league l that probably should be on major league teams but it doesn’t happen. 18% is terrible. There is a lot of talk about it but the trending is off.
The NBA is approximately 70% black and that percentage has been deceasing year to year as I read it. So calling 6% near extinction doesn't seem unreasonable to me.

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Re: The 2024 season

Post by D-train » Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:26 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:15 pm
D-train wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:29 pm
Looking at rosters of @NBA the white American basketball player is pretty much extinct! Sure there are guys in the developmental league l that probably should be on major league teams but it doesn’t happen. 18% is terrible. There is a lot of talk about it but the trending is off.
The NBA is approximately 70% black and that percentage has been deceasing year to year as I read it. So calling 6% near extinction doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
Guessing the increase in white players is due to the Eastern Europeans. 6% is a small number when you compare it to 14% of the population being black but if you exclude non US players it is about 10% of Americans so not crazy and who cares.
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Re: The 2024 season

Post by Juliooooo » Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:36 pm

D-train wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:12 pm
Good God how did I never hear about this???????????
That’s a bad call by the umpire.
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Re: The 2024 season

Post by D-train » Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:42 pm

Juliooooo wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:36 pm
D-train wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:12 pm
Good God how did I never hear about this???????????
That’s a bad call by the umpire.
Great point! Should it be called a ball because it was off the plate or a strike to punish the hitter. People get mad when guys bunt to break up a no hitter or perfect game but that is 100x worse.
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Re: The 2024 season

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:49 pm

D-train wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:26 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:15 pm
D-train wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 2:29 pm
Looking at rosters of @NBA the white American basketball player is pretty much extinct! Sure there are guys in the developmental league l that probably should be on major league teams but it doesn’t happen. 18% is terrible. There is a lot of talk about it but the trending is off.
The NBA is approximately 70% black and that percentage has been deceasing year to year as I read it. So calling 6% near extinction doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
Guessing the increase in white players is due to the Eastern Europeans. 6% is a small number when you compare it to 14% of the population being black but if you exclude non US players it is about 10% of Americans so not crazy and who cares.
But white players isn't increasing, it seems to hold firm around 18% black players is declining, it was 84% not so long ago. Yeah, European players are primarily white aren't they?... The deal with baseball is the percentage of black players is declining. It was as high as 18% in the 70s. I think that's what people find concerning about the 6% now. Why has baseball become less appealing to black athletes? In terms of who cares, I think MLB cares. I don't believe they feel it's healthy to lose that segment of the population participating in their sport.

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Re: The 2024 season

Post by Juliooooo » Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:02 pm

D-train wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:42 pm
Juliooooo wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:36 pm
D-train wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:12 pm
Good God how did I never hear about this???????????
That’s a bad call by the umpire.
Great point! Should it be called a ball because it was off the plate or a strike to punish the hitter. People get mad when guys bunt to break up a no hitter or perfect game but that is 100x worse.
Not sure the rule, but he didn’t avoid it, which by rule in mlb is not a hbp
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Re: The 2024 season

Post by Donn Beach » Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:21 pm

I don't see anything there that is obviously the batter trying to get hit. If the perfect game wasn't an issue it just goes down as HBP

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Re: The 2024 season

Post by D-train » Wed Mar 27, 2024 7:28 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:49 pm
D-train wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:26 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Wed Mar 27, 2024 3:15 pm


The NBA is approximately 70% black and that percentage has been deceasing year to year as I read it. So calling 6% near extinction doesn't seem unreasonable to me.
Guessing the increase in white players is due to the Eastern Europeans. 6% is a small number when you compare it to 14% of the population being black but if you exclude non US players it is about 10% of Americans so not crazy and who cares.
But white players isn't increasing, it seems to hold firm around 18% black players is declining, it was 84% not so long ago. Yeah, European players are primarily white aren't they?... The deal with baseball is the percentage of black players is declining. It was as high as 18% in the 70s. I think that's what people find concerning about the 6% now. Why has baseball become less appealing to black athletes? In terms of who cares, I think MLB cares. I don't believe they feel it's healthy to lose that segment of the population participating in their sport.
They hired Griffey over 3 years ago as a token that they care but here we are at 6%.

The only reason to care is DEI reasons. Every player in the league is a human being and that is all that matters. If there were more black players there would be less White and Hispanic or Asian players. How is it a good thing to have less of those races. Are they inferior???

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