More likely they didn't dream he would fall to them so they weren't focused on him.Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Tue Jul 13, 2021 2:34 pmWho knows but if the Mariners couldn't sign him they wouldn't have received any compensation for the lost draft pick so the threat was probably enough.
Draft pick strategy
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Re: Draft pick strategy
That wouldn't surprise me.
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For #Mariners, here's where their draftees will fit into my Top 50.
6) Harry Ford
13) Edwin Arroyo
19) Michael Morales
20) Bryce Miller
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Sounds about right, looks like some nice additions in the top 10 picks.
Not sure if anyone has put up this link yet breaking down the top 10 picks-
https://www.mlb.com/mariners/news/marin ... e-coverage
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This is where the top prospect lists kind of lose me. I sort of get putting your first round pick in their somewhere, but there's literally no basis for ranking any of the others against players that have been in your system and performed against professional-level competition, even if at the very lowest levels.
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How about the Angels strategy , 20 picks , 20 pitchers
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Here is a overview of the picks in Corey Brock's article in the Athletic:
After taking a combined 17 college pitchers in the first 10 rounds of the last three drafts, the Mariners went for more of a well-rounded approach for this year’s 20-round draft, which concluded Tuesday.
But it’s clear the work the Mariners did during the drafts of 2018, 2019 and 2020 afforded them the opportunity to add an influx of position players to their pitching-heavy farm system.
“Watching from the sidelines before we started to travel this season, we saw this draft was going to be a little higher on high school hitters. And as you see what we’ve done over the last four years here we’ve really done a good job in building our organization up to be not only stable, but I would say somewhat thriving,” said Scott Hunter, the Mariners director of amateur scouting.
Of Seattle’s 20 picks, 10 were position players, including their first two picks, high school players, catcher/outfielder Harry Ford (No. 12 overall) and shortstop Edwin Arroyo (No. 48). Ford is a super-toolsy player who could eventually end up behind the plate, in the outfield or possibly the infield.
The team took Arroyo in the second round out of Central Pointe Christian Academy in Florida. Arroyo already has a strong arm and is a rare find because he’s a switch-hitter (though he’s better from the right side currently).
With their third-round pick, the Mariners selected another prep player, right-handed pitcher Michael Morales out of East Pennsboro High in Pennsylvania. Morales has a firm fastball in the low 90s and already has a plus curveball.
“Our college players are moving through our system fast, so I do think we had an opportunity to take some chances, get some young exciting explosive players like Henry Ford, Edwin Arroyo and even Michael Morales,” Hunter said.
“We can take some time, let them grow into their bodies, start them out at the lower levels and see how fast they run without any expectations of moving them too quick.”
After Arroyo and Morales, the Mariners got back to what they’ve done well since 2018 — selecting college pitchers. The Mariners took four college arms on the second day of the draft Monday during rounds Nos. 2-10, including fourth-rounder Bryce Miller from Texas A&M.
Miller, a former reliever for the Aggies, moved to the starting rotation and found a lot of success with a fastball that has topped out at 99 mph with three other good pitches for him to lean on.
The team’s sixth-round pick, righty Bryan Woo from Cal Poly, was a teammate of Taylor Dollard’s last season in college. The Mariners selected Dollard in the draft last June and he’s already advanced to High-A Everett. Woo, who previously had Tommy John surgery, graded out very highly on video in terms of his mechanics.
More than the college pitchers, though, the Mariners were aggressive on the second and third day of the draft in adding college position players to give their pitcher-heavy farm system an influx of bats. The last eight position players they drafted were college players.
Hunter said this will help add balance to a system teeming with pitchers.
“We set out with a plan to really build the system up, get to a point where we could really be aggressive and start taking some chances and look to build the second wave of young talent,” he said.
Mariners 2021 MLB Draft picks
RD PICK NAME POS SCHOOL
1
12
Harry Ford
C
North Cobb (Ga.) HS
2
48
Edwin Arroyo
SS
Central Pointe Christian (Fla.) HS
3
83
Michael Morales
P
East Pennsboro (Pa.) HS
4
113
Bryce Miller
P
Texas A&M
5
144
Andy Thomas
C
Baylor
6
174
Bryan Woo
P
Cal Poly
7
204
Colin Davis
OF
Wofford
8
234
James Parker
SS
Clemson
9
264
Spencer Packard
OF
Campbell
10
294
Jordan Jackson
P
Georgia Southern
11
324
William Fleming
P
Wake Forest
12
354
Corey Rosier
OF
UNC Greensboro
13
384
Ben Ramirez
SS
USC
14
414
Andrew Moore
P
Chiopla
15
444
Cole Barr
3B
Indiana
16
474
Jimmy Joyce
P
Hofstra
17
504
Jimmy Kingsbury
P
Villanova
18
534
Riley Davis
P
UAB
19
564
Charlie Welch
C
Arkansas
20
594
Troy Taylor
P
Cypress
After taking a combined 17 college pitchers in the first 10 rounds of the last three drafts, the Mariners went for more of a well-rounded approach for this year’s 20-round draft, which concluded Tuesday.
But it’s clear the work the Mariners did during the drafts of 2018, 2019 and 2020 afforded them the opportunity to add an influx of position players to their pitching-heavy farm system.
“Watching from the sidelines before we started to travel this season, we saw this draft was going to be a little higher on high school hitters. And as you see what we’ve done over the last four years here we’ve really done a good job in building our organization up to be not only stable, but I would say somewhat thriving,” said Scott Hunter, the Mariners director of amateur scouting.
Of Seattle’s 20 picks, 10 were position players, including their first two picks, high school players, catcher/outfielder Harry Ford (No. 12 overall) and shortstop Edwin Arroyo (No. 48). Ford is a super-toolsy player who could eventually end up behind the plate, in the outfield or possibly the infield.
The team took Arroyo in the second round out of Central Pointe Christian Academy in Florida. Arroyo already has a strong arm and is a rare find because he’s a switch-hitter (though he’s better from the right side currently).
With their third-round pick, the Mariners selected another prep player, right-handed pitcher Michael Morales out of East Pennsboro High in Pennsylvania. Morales has a firm fastball in the low 90s and already has a plus curveball.
“Our college players are moving through our system fast, so I do think we had an opportunity to take some chances, get some young exciting explosive players like Henry Ford, Edwin Arroyo and even Michael Morales,” Hunter said.
“We can take some time, let them grow into their bodies, start them out at the lower levels and see how fast they run without any expectations of moving them too quick.”
After Arroyo and Morales, the Mariners got back to what they’ve done well since 2018 — selecting college pitchers. The Mariners took four college arms on the second day of the draft Monday during rounds Nos. 2-10, including fourth-rounder Bryce Miller from Texas A&M.
Miller, a former reliever for the Aggies, moved to the starting rotation and found a lot of success with a fastball that has topped out at 99 mph with three other good pitches for him to lean on.
The team’s sixth-round pick, righty Bryan Woo from Cal Poly, was a teammate of Taylor Dollard’s last season in college. The Mariners selected Dollard in the draft last June and he’s already advanced to High-A Everett. Woo, who previously had Tommy John surgery, graded out very highly on video in terms of his mechanics.
More than the college pitchers, though, the Mariners were aggressive on the second and third day of the draft in adding college position players to give their pitcher-heavy farm system an influx of bats. The last eight position players they drafted were college players.
Hunter said this will help add balance to a system teeming with pitchers.
“We set out with a plan to really build the system up, get to a point where we could really be aggressive and start taking some chances and look to build the second wave of young talent,” he said.
Mariners 2021 MLB Draft picks
RD PICK NAME POS SCHOOL
1
12
Harry Ford
C
North Cobb (Ga.) HS
2
48
Edwin Arroyo
SS
Central Pointe Christian (Fla.) HS
3
83
Michael Morales
P
East Pennsboro (Pa.) HS
4
113
Bryce Miller
P
Texas A&M
5
144
Andy Thomas
C
Baylor
6
174
Bryan Woo
P
Cal Poly
7
204
Colin Davis
OF
Wofford
8
234
James Parker
SS
Clemson
9
264
Spencer Packard
OF
Campbell
10
294
Jordan Jackson
P
Georgia Southern
11
324
William Fleming
P
Wake Forest
12
354
Corey Rosier
OF
UNC Greensboro
13
384
Ben Ramirez
SS
USC
14
414
Andrew Moore
P
Chiopla
15
444
Cole Barr
3B
Indiana
16
474
Jimmy Joyce
P
Hofstra
17
504
Jimmy Kingsbury
P
Villanova
18
534
Riley Davis
P
UAB
19
564
Charlie Welch
C
Arkansas
20
594
Troy Taylor
P
Cypress
Last edited by Bil522 on Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.
Re: Draft pick strategy
Here is a overview of the picks in Corey Brock's article in the Athletic:
After taking a combined 17 college pitchers in the first 10 rounds of the last three drafts, the Mariners went for more of a well-rounded approach for this year’s 20-round draft, which concluded Tuesday.
But it’s clear the work the Mariners did during the drafts of 2018, 2019 and 2020 afforded them the opportunity to add an influx of position players to their pitching-heavy farm system.
“Watching from the sidelines before we started to travel this season, we saw this draft was going to be a little higher on high school hitters. And as you see what we’ve done over the last four years here we’ve really done a good job in building our organization up to be not only stable, but I would say somewhat thriving,” said Scott Hunter, the Mariners director of amateur scouting.
Of Seattle’s 20 picks, 10 were position players, including their first two picks, high school players, catcher/outfielder Harry Ford (No. 12 overall) and shortstop Edwin Arroyo (No. 48). Ford is a super-toolsy player who could eventually end up behind the plate, in the outfield or possibly the infield.
The team took Arroyo in the second round out of Central Pointe Christian Academy in Florida. Arroyo already has a strong arm and is a rare find because he’s a switch-hitter (though he’s better from the right side currently).
With their third-round pick, the Mariners selected another prep player, right-handed pitcher Michael Morales out of East Pennsboro High in Pennsylvania. Morales has a firm fastball in the low 90s and already has a plus curveball.
“Our college players are moving through our system fast, so I do think we had an opportunity to take some chances, get some young exciting explosive players like Henry Ford, Edwin Arroyo and even Michael Morales,” Hunter said.
“We can take some time, let them grow into their bodies, start them out at the lower levels and see how fast they run without any expectations of moving them too quick.”
After Arroyo and Morales, the Mariners got back to what they’ve done well since 2018 — selecting college pitchers. The Mariners took four college arms on the second day of the draft Monday during rounds Nos. 2-10, including fourth-rounder Bryce Miller from Texas A&M.
Miller, a former reliever for the Aggies, moved to the starting rotation and found a lot of success with a fastball that has topped out at 99 mph with three other good pitches for him to lean on.
The team’s sixth-round pick, righty Bryan Woo from Cal Poly, was a teammate of Taylor Dollard’s last season in college. The Mariners selected Dollard in the draft last June and he’s already advanced to High-A Everett. Woo, who previously had Tommy John surgery, graded out very highly on video in terms of his mechanics.
More than the college pitchers, though, the Mariners were aggressive on the second and third day of the draft in adding college position players to give their pitcher-heavy farm system an influx of bats. The last eight position players they drafted were college players.
Hunter said this will help add balance to a system teeming with pitchers.
“We set out with a plan to really build the system up, get to a point where we could really be aggressive and start taking some chances and look to build the second wave of young talent,” he said.
Mariners 2021 MLB Draft picks
RD PICK NAME POS SCHOOL
1
12
Harry Ford
C
North Cobb (Ga.) HS
2
48
Edwin Arroyo
SS
Central Pointe Christian (Fla.) HS
3
83
Michael Morales
P
East Pennsboro (Pa.) HS
4
113
Bryce Miller
P
Texas A&M
5
144
Andy Thomas
C
Baylor
6
174
Bryan Woo
P
Cal Poly
7
204
Colin Davis
OF
Wofford
8
234
James Parker
SS
Clemson
9
264
Spencer Packard
OF
Campbell
10
294
Jordan Jackson
P
Georgia Southern
11
324
William Fleming
P
Wake Forest
12
354
Corey Rosier
OF
UNC Greensboro
13
384
Ben Ramirez
SS
USC
14
414
Andrew Moore
P
Chiopla
15
444
Cole Barr
3B
Indiana
16
474
Jimmy Joyce
P
Hofstra
17
504
Jimmy Kingsbury
P
Villanova
18
534
Riley Davis
P
UAB
19
564
Charlie Welch
C
Arkansas
20
594
Troy Taylor
P
Cypress
After taking a combined 17 college pitchers in the first 10 rounds of the last three drafts, the Mariners went for more of a well-rounded approach for this year’s 20-round draft, which concluded Tuesday.
But it’s clear the work the Mariners did during the drafts of 2018, 2019 and 2020 afforded them the opportunity to add an influx of position players to their pitching-heavy farm system.
“Watching from the sidelines before we started to travel this season, we saw this draft was going to be a little higher on high school hitters. And as you see what we’ve done over the last four years here we’ve really done a good job in building our organization up to be not only stable, but I would say somewhat thriving,” said Scott Hunter, the Mariners director of amateur scouting.
Of Seattle’s 20 picks, 10 were position players, including their first two picks, high school players, catcher/outfielder Harry Ford (No. 12 overall) and shortstop Edwin Arroyo (No. 48). Ford is a super-toolsy player who could eventually end up behind the plate, in the outfield or possibly the infield.
The team took Arroyo in the second round out of Central Pointe Christian Academy in Florida. Arroyo already has a strong arm and is a rare find because he’s a switch-hitter (though he’s better from the right side currently).
With their third-round pick, the Mariners selected another prep player, right-handed pitcher Michael Morales out of East Pennsboro High in Pennsylvania. Morales has a firm fastball in the low 90s and already has a plus curveball.
“Our college players are moving through our system fast, so I do think we had an opportunity to take some chances, get some young exciting explosive players like Henry Ford, Edwin Arroyo and even Michael Morales,” Hunter said.
“We can take some time, let them grow into their bodies, start them out at the lower levels and see how fast they run without any expectations of moving them too quick.”
After Arroyo and Morales, the Mariners got back to what they’ve done well since 2018 — selecting college pitchers. The Mariners took four college arms on the second day of the draft Monday during rounds Nos. 2-10, including fourth-rounder Bryce Miller from Texas A&M.
Miller, a former reliever for the Aggies, moved to the starting rotation and found a lot of success with a fastball that has topped out at 99 mph with three other good pitches for him to lean on.
The team’s sixth-round pick, righty Bryan Woo from Cal Poly, was a teammate of Taylor Dollard’s last season in college. The Mariners selected Dollard in the draft last June and he’s already advanced to High-A Everett. Woo, who previously had Tommy John surgery, graded out very highly on video in terms of his mechanics.
More than the college pitchers, though, the Mariners were aggressive on the second and third day of the draft in adding college position players to give their pitcher-heavy farm system an influx of bats. The last eight position players they drafted were college players.
Hunter said this will help add balance to a system teeming with pitchers.
“We set out with a plan to really build the system up, get to a point where we could really be aggressive and start taking some chances and look to build the second wave of young talent,” he said.
Mariners 2021 MLB Draft picks
RD PICK NAME POS SCHOOL
1
12
Harry Ford
C
North Cobb (Ga.) HS
2
48
Edwin Arroyo
SS
Central Pointe Christian (Fla.) HS
3
83
Michael Morales
P
East Pennsboro (Pa.) HS
4
113
Bryce Miller
P
Texas A&M
5
144
Andy Thomas
C
Baylor
6
174
Bryan Woo
P
Cal Poly
7
204
Colin Davis
OF
Wofford
8
234
James Parker
SS
Clemson
9
264
Spencer Packard
OF
Campbell
10
294
Jordan Jackson
P
Georgia Southern
11
324
William Fleming
P
Wake Forest
12
354
Corey Rosier
OF
UNC Greensboro
13
384
Ben Ramirez
SS
USC
14
414
Andrew Moore
P
Chiopla
15
444
Cole Barr
3B
Indiana
16
474
Jimmy Joyce
P
Hofstra
17
504
Jimmy Kingsbury
P
Villanova
18
534
Riley Davis
P
UAB
19
564
Charlie Welch
C
Arkansas
20
594
Troy Taylor
P
Cypress
Last edited by Bil522 on Wed Jul 14, 2021 7:21 pm, edited 1 time in total.