The mysterious Clutch Gene

[Michael K.]

I didn't say you did, I used that example. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve some of the blame....I just have a hard time blaming the best hitter and starting pitcher we have when there is so much shit around them. You start nine hitters. Again, swap out J Rod for Griffey in his prime in September. I feel we still miss the playoffs. This is a terribly flawed lineup, and placing blame on these two instead of pointing it right at an organization that refuses to do all it can to help? I don't agree with it.

[ice99]

I didn't say you did, I used that example. I'm not saying he doesn't deserve some of the blame....I just have a hard time blaming the best hitter and starting pitcher we have when there is so much shit around them. You start nine hitters. Again, swap out J Rod for Griffey in his prime in September. I feel we still miss the playoffs. This is a terribly flawed lineup, and placing blame on these two instead of pointing it right at an organization that refuses to do all it can to help? I don't agree with it.

Yes, but what if he had 3 homeruns in the game, and hit the 4th ball to the wall but the CFer stole a home run?

Hah, what would happne then?

WHAT THEN?

WHAT THEN?

What if he got hit by a 100 mph pitch in his previous AB?

WHAT THEN?

WHAT THEN?

I don't care about your piss poor example, that's not what I was saying, not even close.

[Michael K.]

Wow, whatever you say dude.

[bhofferb]

Baseball is a game of hot and cold streaks. Hell, right after “The Double,” which was the most clutch moment in Mariner history, Edgar went something like 2/25 the next round. Doubt anyone ever said it was Edgar’s fault we didn’t win the WS that year…

[ice99]

The playoffs are a different animal. They're facing the best teams, not the Oakland A's in the last 2 weeks of this season and the series is shorter than 2 weeks. Additionally in 95 there were only 4 teams that qualified in each league to be in the postseason, not this watered down stuff.

It was totally different, it was their first mlb postseason - ever. Doubt people were complaining about anything....like that they could've won the WS if they had spent more on payroll due to the payroll vs. wins tendencies.

[D-train]

They actually made a significant move for Andy Benes at the deadline. He somehow went 7-2 with a 5.86 ERA.

[Donn Beach]

Not to mention Vince Coleman and norm Charlton

[D-train]

Not to mention Vince Coleman and norm Charlton

Post Deadline deal for Coleman. Never forget he hit a GS the night of my 10 year HS reunion. I chose to watch the game instead of go to it.

August 15, 1995: Traded by the Kansas City Royals to the Seattle Mariners for a player to be named later. The Seattle Mariners sent Jim Converse (August 18, 1995) to the Kansas City Royals to complete the trade.

[D-train]

Charlton was released by the Phillies on July 10th with a 7+ ERA. Put up a 1.51 ERA for us.

July 10, 1995: Released by the Philadelphia Phillies.

July 14, 1995: Signed as a Free Agent with the Seattle Mariners.

[Donn Beach]

Yeah, the Phillies then picked up a burned out Sid Fernandez off of waivers and was lights out for them