It was probably based a lot off his first year in DSL. He was a 30 hit tool then.D-train wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 2:27 pmIf .327 with a .432 OBP as a 19 yo is a 40 or 50, what does a guy need to put up to be a 60 or 70. Vlad Jr was an 80. He is at least a 60 maybe even a 70 I'm.Juliooooo wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 2:20 pmMontes hit being a 40 seems low right now. Should be a 50+ with his current K rateD-train wrote: ↑Fri May 10, 2024 9:41 amGood write up here.
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2024 Prospects thread
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Jesus forget what I said about that being a good write up. The Laz portion is a f-ing joke. At the top he says he is 6'6" 245lbs and then in the body of it he says he is 6'4" 250lbs.
And then this. He has a 14% K rate.
And then this. He has a 14% K rate.
Oh and of course he hasn't watched him run so he says he is slow and will move to DH. God I hate lazy idiots like that..An imposing figure with as much raw power as you’re going to see from a teenage hitter, Montes has 40 home run upside, but swing and miss concerns and a high DH likelihood make him a risky prospect.
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Re: 2024 Prospects thread
Mighty Modesto Nuts living up to billing as Mariners’ most talented minor league team
May 11, 2024 at 6:00
Adam Jude By Adam Jude
Seattle Times staff reporter
The numbers are …
… Nuts.
(Sorry, couldn’t resist.)
A month ago, Mariners president Jerry Dipoto labeled the Modesto Nuts, the club’s Low-A affiliate, the most talented roster the organization has fielded in his nine years running baseball operations.
Through their first 29 games, it’s impossible to argue otherwise.
The Nuts returned the nucleus of the roster that won the California League championship last summer, and then through the first month of the regular season they have the best winning percentage (at .759, with a 22-7 record entering the weekend) to go with what is statistically the best offense of any of the 120 full-season affiliated teams in the minor leagues.
Entering Friday, they were averaging 7.96 runs per game while ranking No. 1 as a team in batting average (.284), on-base percentage (.406) and OPS (.869) among all minor league teams.
The pitching staff has been impressive, too, leading the California League with a 3.36 ERA while holding opponents to a .198 batting average.
Life’s good for the juggernaut Nuts these days.
“It’s definitely a lot of fun,” Nuts manager Zach Vincej said in a phone interview this week. “I think with the culture we’ve built in this locker room, everyone is on the same page, which for me is the coolest thing.”
The heart of the Modesto lineup features five of the Mariners’ top-10 prospects, all of whom are still teenagers: Lazaro Montes, 19; Michael Arroyo, 19; Jonny Farmelo, 19; Tai Peete, 18; and Colt Emerson, 18.
It’s a core group of players the Mariners envision moving up the ladder through the system together. Most of them will likely find their way to the High-A Everett AquaSox at some point this season, and perhaps soon.
Montes, the hulking Cuban slugger, leads the California League with six homers and 39 RBI through 28 games, with a .327/.434/.566 (1.000 OPS) slash line. Most notably, he has as many walks (20) as strikeouts (20).
“His super power is his ability to hit the ball out of the park,” Vincej said. “He’s going to have some whiffs and some strikeouts, but for him to put the ball in play as consistently as he has been is outstanding for a 4-hole hitter with the kind of slug he brings.”
Beyond that, Montes has a gregarious clubhouse presence.
“He’s one of our top guys in the clubhouse who keeps everyone laughing and smiling — just keeps morale up,” Vincej said. “He brings a lot of positivity. He’s an amazing person who cares about everybody.”
Emerson, Farmelo and Peete were the Mariners’ three first-round picks last fall, out coming straight out of high school.
Emerson, the Nuts’ shortstop, is the youngest of the bunch, but he’s quickly built a reputation as one of the most mature. He’s hitting .288 with an .883 OPS through his first 15 games, after missing a couple weeks with an oblique injury.
“He’s still so young, and that’s easy to forget sometimes,” Vincej said. “He’s a gamer. He competes every single night. You know he’s going to come in and play good defense and you know he’s going to be a good teammate. … His strongest quality might be his ability to forget about the last at-bat and just move on to the next one.”
Farmelo is an athletic center fielder with great speed (10 for 12 in stolen-base attempts) and good power (three homers, .811 OPS). Peete has played third base and shortstop, and he leads the team in triples (with four). And Arroyo has been a steady on-base source (.401 career OBP) and steady defender at second base.
Caleb Cali, a corner infielder out of the University of Arkansas, is the old man of the group — at just 23 years old. He was a 16th-round pick last season, he’s impressed with his mature and consistent approach, and he was named the Mariners minor league player of the month for April after posting a .404/.507/.649 (1.156 OPS) in his first 57 at-bats.
“Just incredible. He’s been a nice surprise,” Vincej said. “He’s disciplined and he’s seeing results because of his plan and how he’s committed to his plan each day. It’s really impressive how often he’s crushing the baseball, and he’s definitely opening some eyes.”
First baseman Luis Suisbel (.317 average, .893 OPS), 19-year-old outfielder Aidan Smith (three homers, seven steals) and catcher Jacob Sharp (1.002 OPS) have been key contributors too.
On the pitching side, 5-foot-10 right-hander Will Schomberg (3-1, 2.48 ERA) and 5-11 right-hander Elijah Dale have been pleasant surprises.
Schomberg, 23, signed with the Mariners as an undrafted free agent out of Davidson last summer, and Dale was a 13th-round pick out of Illinois State.
“They all know that there’s expectations to come here and just get better every day, and that makes it so enjoyable as the manager,” Vincej said. “The guys come to the ballpark energized every day. They love to win, and I think that helps drive them to just try to be the best versions of themselves every day."
May 11, 2024 at 6:00
Adam Jude By Adam Jude
Seattle Times staff reporter
The numbers are …
… Nuts.
(Sorry, couldn’t resist.)
A month ago, Mariners president Jerry Dipoto labeled the Modesto Nuts, the club’s Low-A affiliate, the most talented roster the organization has fielded in his nine years running baseball operations.
Through their first 29 games, it’s impossible to argue otherwise.
The Nuts returned the nucleus of the roster that won the California League championship last summer, and then through the first month of the regular season they have the best winning percentage (at .759, with a 22-7 record entering the weekend) to go with what is statistically the best offense of any of the 120 full-season affiliated teams in the minor leagues.
Entering Friday, they were averaging 7.96 runs per game while ranking No. 1 as a team in batting average (.284), on-base percentage (.406) and OPS (.869) among all minor league teams.
The pitching staff has been impressive, too, leading the California League with a 3.36 ERA while holding opponents to a .198 batting average.
Life’s good for the juggernaut Nuts these days.
“It’s definitely a lot of fun,” Nuts manager Zach Vincej said in a phone interview this week. “I think with the culture we’ve built in this locker room, everyone is on the same page, which for me is the coolest thing.”
The heart of the Modesto lineup features five of the Mariners’ top-10 prospects, all of whom are still teenagers: Lazaro Montes, 19; Michael Arroyo, 19; Jonny Farmelo, 19; Tai Peete, 18; and Colt Emerson, 18.
It’s a core group of players the Mariners envision moving up the ladder through the system together. Most of them will likely find their way to the High-A Everett AquaSox at some point this season, and perhaps soon.
Montes, the hulking Cuban slugger, leads the California League with six homers and 39 RBI through 28 games, with a .327/.434/.566 (1.000 OPS) slash line. Most notably, he has as many walks (20) as strikeouts (20).
“His super power is his ability to hit the ball out of the park,” Vincej said. “He’s going to have some whiffs and some strikeouts, but for him to put the ball in play as consistently as he has been is outstanding for a 4-hole hitter with the kind of slug he brings.”
Beyond that, Montes has a gregarious clubhouse presence.
“He’s one of our top guys in the clubhouse who keeps everyone laughing and smiling — just keeps morale up,” Vincej said. “He brings a lot of positivity. He’s an amazing person who cares about everybody.”
Emerson, Farmelo and Peete were the Mariners’ three first-round picks last fall, out coming straight out of high school.
Emerson, the Nuts’ shortstop, is the youngest of the bunch, but he’s quickly built a reputation as one of the most mature. He’s hitting .288 with an .883 OPS through his first 15 games, after missing a couple weeks with an oblique injury.
“He’s still so young, and that’s easy to forget sometimes,” Vincej said. “He’s a gamer. He competes every single night. You know he’s going to come in and play good defense and you know he’s going to be a good teammate. … His strongest quality might be his ability to forget about the last at-bat and just move on to the next one.”
Farmelo is an athletic center fielder with great speed (10 for 12 in stolen-base attempts) and good power (three homers, .811 OPS). Peete has played third base and shortstop, and he leads the team in triples (with four). And Arroyo has been a steady on-base source (.401 career OBP) and steady defender at second base.
Caleb Cali, a corner infielder out of the University of Arkansas, is the old man of the group — at just 23 years old. He was a 16th-round pick last season, he’s impressed with his mature and consistent approach, and he was named the Mariners minor league player of the month for April after posting a .404/.507/.649 (1.156 OPS) in his first 57 at-bats.
“Just incredible. He’s been a nice surprise,” Vincej said. “He’s disciplined and he’s seeing results because of his plan and how he’s committed to his plan each day. It’s really impressive how often he’s crushing the baseball, and he’s definitely opening some eyes.”
First baseman Luis Suisbel (.317 average, .893 OPS), 19-year-old outfielder Aidan Smith (three homers, seven steals) and catcher Jacob Sharp (1.002 OPS) have been key contributors too.
On the pitching side, 5-foot-10 right-hander Will Schomberg (3-1, 2.48 ERA) and 5-11 right-hander Elijah Dale have been pleasant surprises.
Schomberg, 23, signed with the Mariners as an undrafted free agent out of Davidson last summer, and Dale was a 13th-round pick out of Illinois State.
“They all know that there’s expectations to come here and just get better every day, and that makes it so enjoyable as the manager,” Vincej said. “The guys come to the ballpark energized every day. They love to win, and I think that helps drive them to just try to be the best versions of themselves every day."
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https://www.mlb.com/prospects/top100/
New top 100:
Cole Young up to 28 from 37.
Harry Ford up to 29 from 38.
Big jump for both of them ahead of some guys who had been ahead of them for a while... sort of surprising that Young moved up.
Colt Emerson up to 51 from 87.
Laz Montez gets a jump into MLB's top 100 at 85.
New top 100:
Cole Young up to 28 from 37.
Harry Ford up to 29 from 38.
Big jump for both of them ahead of some guys who had been ahead of them for a while... sort of surprising that Young moved up.
Colt Emerson up to 51 from 87.
Laz Montez gets a jump into MLB's top 100 at 85.
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Actually Seattle placed 7 in the top 100.....3 of them are on other teams. Noveli(30), Arroyo(53), and GG gets his first top 100 entry at 86. As frustrated as I am with Jerry on the MLB part of being GM, he has killed in putting together a team that does so well in drafting and signing International talent.Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 2:34 amhttps://www.mlb.com/prospects/top100/
New top 100:
Cole Young up to 28 from 37.
Harry Ford up to 29 from 38.
Big jump for both of them ahead of some guys who had been ahead of them for a while... sort of surprising that Young moved up.
Colt Emerson up to 51 from 87.
Laz Montez gets a jump into MLB's top 100 at 85.
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That’s where they have done well. Maybe they can just get rid of Jerry and keep the entire scouting department.Bil522 wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 4:07 amActually Seattle placed 7 in the top 100.....3 of them are on other teams. Noveli(30), Arroyo(53), and GG gets his first top 100 entry at 86. As frustrated as I am with Jerry on the MLB part of being GM, he has killed in putting together a team that does so well in drafting and signing International talent.Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑Mon May 13, 2024 2:34 amhttps://www.mlb.com/prospects/top100/
New top 100:
Cole Young up to 28 from 37.
Harry Ford up to 29 from 38.
Big jump for both of them ahead of some guys who had been ahead of them for a while... sort of surprising that Young moved up.
Colt Emerson up to 51 from 87.
Laz Montez gets a jump into MLB's top 100 at 85.
Celestin might jump on there this year as well
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Just read this blurb in the Athletic about the Complex leagues that just started:
Seattle Mariners: Felnin Celesten, Jeter Martinez, Walter Ford, Cole Phillips
The Mariners might have the most star-studded roster. Celesten and Martinez were two of the most highly regarded January 2023 international signings. Celesten, 18, missed all of last season with an injury but is already off to a fast start in Peoria, Ariz. The switch hitter is batting .364/.481/.591 in six games. He’s the Mariners’ No. 5 prospect.
Martinez (No. 17 Seattle prospect) had a strong debut last season in the DSL, posting a 1.72 ERA and a 55:20 K:BB in 47 innings. The 18-year-old native of Mexico has thrown two three-inning starts, allowing two runs on five hits with two walks and five strikeouts in those six frames.
Ford, 19, was the 74th pick in the 2022 draft out of Pace (Fla.) High. Nicknamed “the Vanilla Missile,” he came to pro ball with a significant social media presence as well as an explosive fastball. His velocity was down last season in his pro debut, when he had a 3.57 ERA in 22 2/3 innings with a 23:10 K:BB. He’s coming into this season reportedly in better shape than last year and may not stay in the ACL long if he gets good early results. He allowed one earned run in 2 2/3 innings with four strikeouts and no walks in his 2024 debut.
Phillips, 20, begins the season on the 60-day injured list while completing his rehab from Tommy John surgery, which he had in 2022 shortly after going to Atlanta in the second round of that year’s draft. The right-hander was part of the return the Mariners received in the trade that sent Jarred Kelenic to the Braves. Phillips had a near triple-digit fastball in high school and his debut will be worth monitoring.
Seattle Mariners: Felnin Celesten, Jeter Martinez, Walter Ford, Cole Phillips
The Mariners might have the most star-studded roster. Celesten and Martinez were two of the most highly regarded January 2023 international signings. Celesten, 18, missed all of last season with an injury but is already off to a fast start in Peoria, Ariz. The switch hitter is batting .364/.481/.591 in six games. He’s the Mariners’ No. 5 prospect.
Martinez (No. 17 Seattle prospect) had a strong debut last season in the DSL, posting a 1.72 ERA and a 55:20 K:BB in 47 innings. The 18-year-old native of Mexico has thrown two three-inning starts, allowing two runs on five hits with two walks and five strikeouts in those six frames.
Ford, 19, was the 74th pick in the 2022 draft out of Pace (Fla.) High. Nicknamed “the Vanilla Missile,” he came to pro ball with a significant social media presence as well as an explosive fastball. His velocity was down last season in his pro debut, when he had a 3.57 ERA in 22 2/3 innings with a 23:10 K:BB. He’s coming into this season reportedly in better shape than last year and may not stay in the ACL long if he gets good early results. He allowed one earned run in 2 2/3 innings with four strikeouts and no walks in his 2024 debut.
Phillips, 20, begins the season on the 60-day injured list while completing his rehab from Tommy John surgery, which he had in 2022 shortly after going to Atlanta in the second round of that year’s draft. The right-hander was part of the return the Mariners received in the trade that sent Jarred Kelenic to the Braves. Phillips had a near triple-digit fastball in high school and his debut will be worth monitoring.
Re: 2024 Prospects thread
The other hs pitchers from Fords class (Izzy and Gough) are doing pretty well in Modesto as well. Morales is showing some signs of improvement in Everett, although the Whip and K rate aren’t that encouraging to me. Lots of young talent in the minors.
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Looks like his power tool is just slightly below his fielding tool and his speed is actually ranked the highest.
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Scorching hot start!
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