A look at the off season additions so far

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A look at the off season additions so far

Post by D-train » Tue May 21, 2024 1:32 pm

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Re: A look at the off season additions so far

Post by harmony » Tue May 21, 2024 7:37 pm

Slightly off topic, but through May 20 last season the Mariners had posted a wRC+ of 94 in 45 games. The M's finished the season with a wRC+ of 107.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... 2023-05-20

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... &players=0

This year the Mariners have posted a wRC+ of 98 through 48 games.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... &players=0

FWIW

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Re: A look at the off season additions so far

Post by D-train » Tue May 21, 2024 7:39 pm

harmony wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 7:37 pm
Slightly off topic, but through May 20 last season the Mariners had posted a wRC+ of 94 in 45 games. The M's finished the season with a wRC+ of 107.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... 2023-05-20

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... &players=0

This year the Mariners have posted a wRC+ of 98 through 48 games.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... &players=0

FWIW
Seems to happen every year. Coincidence or is there a reason for it....A couple weeks ago I checked and every one of the new guys was hitting better at home than on the road. Make it make sense.
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Re: A look at the off season additions so far

Post by Seattle or Bust » Tue May 21, 2024 8:48 pm

D-train wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 7:39 pm
harmony wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 7:37 pm
Slightly off topic, but through May 20 last season the Mariners had posted a wRC+ of 94 in 45 games. The M's finished the season with a wRC+ of 107.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... 2023-05-20

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... &players=0

This year the Mariners have posted a wRC+ of 98 through 48 games.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... &players=0

FWIW
Seems to happen every year. Coincidence or is there a reason for it....A couple weeks ago I checked and every one of the new guys was hitting better at home than on the road. Make it make sense.
They say it's because it's cold in April... but not all Mariner teams have had this problem.

I don't think this current coaching regime preps players to be as mentally prepared as they need to be when the season starts.

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Re: A look at the off season additions so far

Post by bpj » Wed May 22, 2024 4:08 am

harmony wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 7:37 pm
Slightly off topic, but through May 20 last season the Mariners had posted a wRC+ of 94 in 45 games. The M's finished the season with a wRC+ of 107.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... 2023-05-20

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... &players=0

This year the Mariners have posted a wRC+ of 98 through 48 games.

https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... &players=0

FWIW
Good points, we've already seen a couple guys come back to life a little bit.

We need Haniger and Garver to get on track.

Polanco and Urias are just in the way of Dylan Moore and Josh Rojas imo.

But, hopefully they can get things going also. Lots of season left.

Unfortunately I'm not sure that works in our favor with teams like the Astros out there getting healthy.

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Re: A look at the off season additions so far

Post by DavidGee24 » Wed May 22, 2024 5:21 am

Wait, what is this thread about again? It went off the rails right after takeoff. 😄

The worst part is that we KNEW this was going to happen. Not with Polanco, but it was pretty much a guarantee that Garver, Haniger, Urias and Zavala were going to be terrible. How in the world do WE know this but people who are paid to know this don't?

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Re: A look at the off season additions so far

Post by Donn Beach » Wed May 22, 2024 6:25 am

I'm guessing Garver got old. Polanco too in a way, health issues?

It's true that since 2021, Polanco ranks fifth among 39 qualified second basemen in wRC+ (121), homers (63), and fourth in RBI (202). It's equally true that, after leading the Twins by a mile with 1,574 plate appearances from 2019 to 2021, Polanco has logged a total of 788 since. Recurring lower body trouble has limited him to 181 starts over the last two seasons. It's enough to wonder if the 30-year-old is nearing the end of his prime.

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Re: A look at the off season additions so far

Post by Pharmabro » Wed May 22, 2024 6:40 am

D-train wrote:
Tue May 21, 2024 1:32 pm
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I think you are a bit off. Including the Rojas deal and you get a recent additions list of:
Canzone 137 OPS+ 0.4 WAR
Raley 133 OPS+ 0.9WAR
Rojas 131 OPS+ 0.9 WAR
Taylor 137 OPS+ (5 ABs) 0.1 WAR

2.3 total

Hanniger 89
Polanco 79
Garver 78
Urias 76
Zavala 60

-1.3 WAR
The new guys have added 1 WAR net improvement.

And even that can be deceptive:
Haniger is 2nd in RBIs 23, and third in runs on the team.

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Re: A look at the off season additions so far

Post by Donn Beach » Wed May 22, 2024 7:07 am

If Jrod was to come around an outfield of Raley, Calzone and him might not be so bad. Season really does hinge on Jrod being his old self

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Re: A look at the off season additions so far

Post by Donn Beach » Wed May 22, 2024 7:30 am

And there's hope for Julio
He is on pace for just 51 hits and three home runs to the pull side. What’s going on? Rodríguez has not been able to stay behind pitches and pull them in the air as he did the past two years. So, while he is still hitting the ball hard, he’s not catching the ball out front and with his head behind the ball enough to drive it out of the park to the pull side.

The good news for Seattle is that this is not so much a swing issue as it is a timing issue, like what bedeviled Aaron Judge early in the season—and look how Judge is obliterating baseballs again now that his timing has improved.

To improve his timing, Rodríguez has incorporated new pregame hitting drills to his routine to stay behind the ball. The results are—slowly—starting to show. Rodríguez’s expected slugging increased from .368 in April to .477 in May, which is about what it was last season (.475). He appears very close to going on a tear.

“The biggest thing with Julio has just been timing,” Seattle manager Scott Servais says. “And we talk about that and that means different things for different players, but when he starts crashing or rushing forward, he's still hitting the ball hard but he's not really staying behind the ball.

“And that's where the home runs come from: when you stay behind it and can really leverage your power. It’s been better the last eight to 10 games. I think he's in a better mindset right now than maybe he was early in the year.”
https://www.si.com/mlb/julio-rodriguez- ... s-mariners

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