T Mobile, a hitters worst nightmare

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Luke Raley: .901 OPS at home / .666 OPS away

Victor Robles: .983 OPS at home / .698 OPS away

Cal Raleigh: .665 OPS at home / .823 OPS away ... 2023: .730 OPS at home / .794 OPS away ... 2022: .600 OPS at home /.961 OPS away

Julio Rodriguez: .655 OPS at home / .805 OPS away ... 2023: .785 OPS at home/ .850 OPS away ... 2022: .892 OPS at home /.820 OPS away

JP Crawford: .480 OPS at home / .762 OPS away ... 2023: .842 OPS at home/ .793 OPS away

Ty France: 2023: .756 OPS at home / .652 away ... 2022: .784 OPS at home / .765 OPS away

Can anyone explain the pure insanity of these numbers?

I posted this the other day but nobody responded to it...

The thing that gets me is the utter polarity... people either hit at an MVP level in this stadium or crater to DFA territory.

The sample sizes for Robles and Raley are a bit small and their numbers are likely anomalous, but it seems to me that there is a batting profile that is more likely to succeed at T-Mobile, and players with low discipline and long swings (regardless of power) don't fit it.

[Michael K.]

I can't believe in this era of AI, rockets into space on the daily and sex robots they can't fix the damn ball park to get it to hitting neutral.

This wins the internet today.

[GL_Storm]

There's been an evolution in pitching the last 5-10 years towards greater velocity and more movement, and a new pitch, the horizontal slider, or sweeper, has become more popular and more refined. And with Statcast installed in every park, pitching staffs now have a supercharged ability to diagnose the strengths and weaknesses of individual hitters.

It would be interesting to see how the offensive numbers in TMO park have fared during this period. In other words, is it just the park that we're dealing with right now or is it the unique synergy of the league's worst hitting environment COMBINED WITH this league wide advancement in pitching? I think, probably, this is at least a partial explanation of what happened with Julio last year. The league systematically exploited his weaknesses with breaking pitches and offspeed, and this was simply way more effective at home in this horrific hitting environment.

[Pharmabro]

Luke Raley: .901 OPS at home / .666 OPS away

Victor Robles: .983 OPS at home / .698 OPS away

Cal Raleigh: .665 OPS at home / .823 OPS away ... 2023: .730 OPS at home / .794 OPS away ... 2022: .600 OPS at home /.961 OPS away

Julio Rodriguez: .655 OPS at home / .805 OPS away ... 2023: .785 OPS at home/ .850 OPS away ... 2022: .892 OPS at home /.820 OPS away

JP Crawford: .480 OPS at home / .762 OPS away ... 2023: .842 OPS at home/ .793 OPS away

Ty France: 2023: .756 OPS at home / .652 away ... 2022: .784 OPS at home / .765 OPS away

Can anyone explain the pure insanity of these numbers?

I posted this the other day but nobody responded to it...

The thing that gets me is the utter polarity... people either hit at an MVP level in this stadium or crater to DFA territory.

The sample sizes for Robles and Raley are a bit small and their numbers are likely anomalous, but it seems to me that there is a batting profile that is more likely to succeed at T-Mobile, and players with low discipline and long swings (regardless of power) don't fit it.

I am not sure, but the power part might be off, (Safeco---> tmobile transition has given the profile of a near neutral park for home run numbers.) The M's home park is at or near worst in terms of singles, doubles, triples, walks & highest in K%. Should we target home run hitting hitters? I don't like the inconsistency of the boom or boost philosophy, but if that is the blue-print of our home stadium's bias? What can you do?

[Bil522]

Luke Raley: .901 OPS at home / .666 OPS away

Victor Robles: .983 OPS at home / .698 OPS away

Cal Raleigh: .665 OPS at home / .823 OPS away ... 2023: .730 OPS at home / .794 OPS away ... 2022: .600 OPS at home /.961 OPS away

Julio Rodriguez: .655 OPS at home / .805 OPS away ... 2023: .785 OPS at home/ .850 OPS away ... 2022: .892 OPS at home /.820 OPS away

JP Crawford: .480 OPS at home / .762 OPS away ... 2023: .842 OPS at home/ .793 OPS away

Ty France: 2023: .756 OPS at home / .652 away ... 2022: .784 OPS at home / .765 OPS away

Can anyone explain the pure insanity of these numbers?

I posted this the other day but nobody responded to it...

The thing that gets me is the utter polarity... people either hit at an MVP level in this stadium or crater to DFA territory.

The sample sizes for Robles and Raley are a bit small and their numbers are likely anomalous, but it seems to me that there is a batting profile that is more likely to succeed at T-Mobile, and players with low discipline and long swings (regardless of power) don't fit it.

I am not sure, but the power part might be off, (Safeco---> tmobile transition has given the profile of a near neutral park for home run numbers.) The M's home park is at or near worst in terms of singles, doubles, triples, walks & highest in K%. Should we target home run hitting hitters? I don't like the inconsistency of the boom or boost philosophy, but if that is the blue-print of our home stadium's bias? What can you do?

The question that needs to be asked is....has it always been this way? Or is this because of the current 3 scenario hitting style of most everyone: walk, strikeout, or homerun?

[AZOldDawg]

I’m guessing there’s a simple answer to this but if the Kingdom was a hitter’s park then playing with the roof closed should help at T Mobile

[Captain 97]

I’m guessing there’s a simple answer to this but if the Kingdom was a hitter’s park then playing with the roof closed should help at T Mobile

No it wouldn't. The Kingdome was completely enclosed and climate controlled. The T-mobile roof is nothing but a giant carport and doesn't modify temperature, air density and humidity levels.

[Donn Beach]

Closing the roof doesn't really enclose TMobile. I don't see a relationship to the King dome. The King dome had some pretty short dimensions, artificial turf. I'm going to guess a better batting eye. And a controlled environment. Closing the roof of TMobile doesn't accomplish any of that. Though it could help eliminate sun glare. That's kinda of a typical Seattle thing isn't it. What's that thing in the sky? OMG we can't hit it's too bright!

[Donn Beach]

For those that might not be familiar with what I was getting at

"It's scary; it really is scary," said Boone, who said he did not see the fastball from the Minnesota Twins' Kyle Lohse on Saturday. "You cannot see the ball on a lot of pitches. We can't see half the pitches in our own park half the time. It's especially bad later in the 3 o'clock (3:35) starts and early in the 6 o'clock games."

This is not the first time a Mariner has broached this issue. There have been a few comments in public, but none as frank as Boone's.

In most instances, players have expressed their strongest feelings in private discussions with club officials.

In 1999, in what many insiders believe was one factor in his decision to leave, Ken Griffey Jr. called then General Manager Woody Woodward during a game and demanded that the roof be closed. Woodward's response reportedly was that the outfielder should never call him during a game again.

And in 2000, Alex Rodriguez's final season with the Mariners, the shortstop reportedly got into heated arguments with team president Chuck Armstrong over the issue of closing the roof on sunny days.

https://archive.seattletimes.com/archiv ... ng-problem

So we tear down the kingdome and build an outdoor stadium with a roof we can close at great expense when it rains but wait a minute, we need to close it as well when the sun is out. Hmmm what am I missing, as dtrain would say, you couldn't make this stuff up

[D-train]

For those that might not be familiar with what I was getting at

"It's scary; it really is scary," said Boone, who said he did not see the fastball from the Minnesota Twins' Kyle Lohse on Saturday. "You cannot see the ball on a lot of pitches. We can't see half the pitches in our own park half the time. It's especially bad later in the 3 o'clock (3:35) starts and early in the 6 o'clock games."

This is not the first time a Mariner has broached this issue. There have been a few comments in public, but none as frank as Boone's.

In most instances, players have expressed their strongest feelings in private discussions with club officials.

In 1999, in what many insiders believe was one factor in his decision to leave, Ken Griffey Jr. called then General Manager Woody Woodward during a game and demanded that the roof be closed. Woodward's response reportedly was that the outfielder should never call him during a game again.

And in 2000, Alex Rodriguez's final season with the Mariners, the shortstop reportedly got into heated arguments with team president Chuck Armstrong over the issue of closing the roof on sunny days.

https://archive.seattletimes.com/archiv ... ng-problem

So we tear down the kingdome and build an outdoor stadium with a roof we can close at great expense when it rains but wait a minute, we need to close it as well when the sun is out. Hmmm what am I missing, as dtrain would say, you couldn't make this stuff up