Raleigh on his extension and Dipoto's deadline deals

[ddraig]

How about total bases divided by number of at bats? 4 HR's, 1 T, 6 D's, and 12 S's in 100 AB's. 43 total bases divided by 100. 0.430. Or 45 HR's, 0 T's, 16 D's, 47 S's. That's 259 total bases. divide that by 437 and you get 0.593. In other words, Slugging Percentage.

You lost me there, why are you comparing those two sets of stats?

You could have a guy who hits one HR (4 bases) in 10 AB's and no other hits. That's 4 (total bases) divided by 10 (total chances for a hit). 4 divided by 10 is what? 0.400. Cal has 259 total bases in 427 chances. 0.593. Who is the better hitter?

Now this has flaws as well. If a guy has a boatload of singles and doubles but no HR's, his numbers don't compare to Cal's because he doesn't hit for power but his batting average could be much higher than Cal. So all things considered, there is really no way of coming up with a fair way to judge effectiveness of any hitter. I'm certain a much better mathematician than I could devise a way that is both accurate and fair.

[Michael K.]

You could have a guy who hits one HR (4 bases) in 10 AB's and no other hits. That's 4 (total bases) divided by 10 (total chances for a hit). 4 divided by 10 is what? 0.400. Cal has 259 total bases in 427 chances. 0.593. Who is the better hitter?

Now this has flaws as well. If a guy has a boatload of singles and doubles but no HR's, his numbers don't compare to Cal's because he doesn't hit for power but his batting average could be much higher than Cal. So all things considered, there is really no way of coming up with a fair way to judge effectiveness of any hitter. I'm certain a much better mathematician than I could devise a way that is both accurate and fair.

Not sure how different from slugging that would be. Slugging just uses at bats instead of plate appearances. Which makes sense. Not sure why you would punish a "slugger" for drawing a walk or sacrificing.

[Sibelius Hindemith]

If you're an extreme fly ball hitter without power you're going to have a low BABIP because you're a bad hitter. Same thing for an extreme ground ball hitter without speed. But if you're an extreme fly ball hitter with power your BABIP is still going to be low, while a ground ball hitter with speed could have a high BABIP (e.g. Ichiro).

I assume what SorB meant when he said "homers hurt BABIP" was "being a home run hitter hurts BABIP" since home run hitters generally have a higher fly ball rate and hence more "automatic outs" via popups and in-play fly balls.

The reasons why Judge has such a higher BABIP than Raleigh is that his avg launch angle and fly ball % are lower while he hits with more power (i.e. exit velo) so he has less pop-ups (5% of batted balls vs 13%) and more HRs per fly ball and hits per ground ball.