You're such an idiot. They do not have a 93 percent success rate in predicting actual trades. The value assessments they use are pulled out of their fucking asses. it's all lunacy. And I'm sick and tired of you going to that god damn site like it's gospel for reality
M's expected to be in on Skubal per Buster Olney
Re: M's expected to be in on Skubal per Buster Olney
Re: M's expected to be in on Skubal per Buster Olney
Logan Gilbert + Emerson Hancock + Harry Ford for Skubal.
They get an extra year from Gilbert, several years of Hancock, plus a guy that can take BP with a donut on his bat which Dipoto just loved.
They get an extra year from Gilbert, several years of Hancock, plus a guy that can take BP with a donut on his bat which Dipoto just loved.
Re: M's expected to be in on Skubal per Buster Olney
Where does it says anything about predicting trades. Can you not fucking read??? They literally outline their detailed methodologies on their site but you to much of a lazy ignorant dumb fuck to take five minutes to read them but instead through a tantrum like a 10 yo girl because you don't agree with it.Vogelbomb wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 11:29 pmYou're such an idiot. They do not have a 93 percent success rate in predicting actual trades. The value assessments they use are pulled out of their fucking asses. it's all lunacy. And I'm sick and tired of you going to that god damn site like it's gospel for reality
https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/val ... r-leaguers
https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/val ... r-leaguers
But hey, great news! I thought of a great way that will ensure you will never have to see them again. I hope you enjoyed your very last day on this website!
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Re: M's expected to be in on Skubal per Buster Olney
What's gotten into this place today. Again guys were missing the point.
1. Skubal is an ACE #1 TOR guy right now
2. None of our guys are signed long term YET
3. Adding Skubal strengthens what already is a strength of your ballclub
4. Most importantly, PROSPECTS ARE JUST PROSPECTS.
5. Even more importantly & the key factor. YOUR NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO PAY ALL 4 OF THESE GUYS WHAT THEY WANT. Someone is gonna be left holding the bag. What are the odds we keep all 4 of these guys long term.
I love Logan & his length. I love Woo & his consistency & durability. I like Millers attitude & I just flat out like Kirby. I like all these guys but at some point we have to be realistic. What happens to these 4 then in comes JC & Cade. No guarantees there. Then there's Sloan. Just a plethora of unproven talent. Too much pitching is never a bad thing. To say that we couldn't improve upon our pitching is absurd. Is there a risk to trading for Skubal. Yes. There's always risk in trading for any player/prospect. Not every player is gonna be a superstar. So ask yourselves, if given the opportunity would you still trade for 1 guaranteed year of Skubal & his electric fastball & the opportunity to re-sign him if it meant giving up either 1 of your starters or top prospects. No guarantee that Colt or Cole are gonna magically set the world on fire day 1. Sometimes you just gotta take chances & role the dice. Anything to keep him away from Houston or the rest of our division & the entire American League. If it meant keeping him out of the AL completely you best belief I'm doing everything in my power to acquire a proven legit talent like Skubal to keep him away from my competition. Did I miss anything?
1. Skubal is an ACE #1 TOR guy right now
2. None of our guys are signed long term YET
3. Adding Skubal strengthens what already is a strength of your ballclub
4. Most importantly, PROSPECTS ARE JUST PROSPECTS.
5. Even more importantly & the key factor. YOUR NOT GONNA BE ABLE TO PAY ALL 4 OF THESE GUYS WHAT THEY WANT. Someone is gonna be left holding the bag. What are the odds we keep all 4 of these guys long term.
I love Logan & his length. I love Woo & his consistency & durability. I like Millers attitude & I just flat out like Kirby. I like all these guys but at some point we have to be realistic. What happens to these 4 then in comes JC & Cade. No guarantees there. Then there's Sloan. Just a plethora of unproven talent. Too much pitching is never a bad thing. To say that we couldn't improve upon our pitching is absurd. Is there a risk to trading for Skubal. Yes. There's always risk in trading for any player/prospect. Not every player is gonna be a superstar. So ask yourselves, if given the opportunity would you still trade for 1 guaranteed year of Skubal & his electric fastball & the opportunity to re-sign him if it meant giving up either 1 of your starters or top prospects. No guarantee that Colt or Cole are gonna magically set the world on fire day 1. Sometimes you just gotta take chances & role the dice. Anything to keep him away from Houston or the rest of our division & the entire American League. If it meant keeping him out of the AL completely you best belief I'm doing everything in my power to acquire a proven legit talent like Skubal to keep him away from my competition. Did I miss anything?
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Re: M's expected to be in on Skubal per Buster Olney
Take the L, Bitch.Vogelbomb wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 11:29 pmYou're such an idiot. They do not have a 93 percent success rate in predicting actual trades. The value assessments they use are pulled out of their fucking asses. it's all lunacy. And I'm sick and tired of you going to that god damn site like it's gospel for reality
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Re: M's expected to be in on Skubal per Buster Olney
I wouldn't call Ford a great fit for the Tigers.
They have a 26 y.o Dylan Dingler controlled the next 5 years who just put up 3.1 bWAR and won a GG at C.
They've also got 2 catchers in the top 5 of their farm.
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Re: M's expected to be in on Skubal per Buster Olney
I agree that the site is generally a good reference.D-train wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 12:09 amTake the L, Bitch.Vogelbomb wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 11:29 pmYou're such an idiot. They do not have a 93 percent success rate in predicting actual trades. The value assessments they use are pulled out of their fucking asses. it's all lunacy. And I'm sick and tired of you going to that god damn site like it's gospel for reality
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But seldom are players traded that are so on the fringes that BTV looks foolish. Like, it's not hard for them to predict the trade "value" of a player with 1 year left on his deal, moderate production, moderate $$ attached... which is like 95% of trades that actually go down.
I think Vogel is being his usual dorky self... but there's no way on God's green earth that Bryce Miller is worth $2M more in trade valuation than Logan Evans.
Re: M's expected to be in on Skubal per Buster Olney
And we need a BU catcher.Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 12:10 amI wouldn't call Ford a great fit for the Tigers.
They have a 26 y.o Dylan Dingler controlled the next 5 years who just put up 3.1 bWAR and won a GG at C.
They've also got 2 catchers in the top 5 of their farm.
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Re: M's expected to be in on Skubal per Buster Olney
Totally agree, when they are valuing 1000s of players of course they are going to blow it on some of them. Far from perfect but far better that listening to bias morons with nothing to back up their opinions.Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 12:16 amI agree that the site is generally a good reference.D-train wrote: ↑Fri Nov 07, 2025 12:09 amTake the L, Bitch.Vogelbomb wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 11:29 pm
You're such an idiot. They do not have a 93 percent success rate in predicting actual trades. The value assessments they use are pulled out of their fucking asses. it's all lunacy. And I'm sick and tired of you going to that god damn site like it's gospel for reality
Screenshot 2025-11-06 160626.png
But seldom are players traded that are so on the fringes that BTV looks foolish. Like, it's not hard for them to predict the trade "value" of a player with 1 year left on his deal, moderate production, moderate $$ attached... which is like 95% of trades that actually go down.
I think Vogel is being his usual dorky self... but there's no way on God's green earth that Bryce Miller is worth $2M more in trade valuation than Logan Evans.
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Re: M's expected to be in on Skubal per Buster Olney
Addition by subtraction.D-train wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 11:54 pmWhere does it says anything about predicting trades. Can you not fucking read??? They literally outline their detailed methodologies on their site but you to much of a lazy ignorant dumb fuck to take five minutes to read them but instead through a tantrum like a 10 yo girl because you don't agree with it.Vogelbomb wrote: ↑Thu Nov 06, 2025 11:29 pmYou're such an idiot. They do not have a 93 percent success rate in predicting actual trades. The value assessments they use are pulled out of their fucking asses. it's all lunacy. And I'm sick and tired of you going to that god damn site like it's gospel for reality![]()
https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/val ... r-leaguers
https://www.baseballtradevalues.com/val ... r-leaguers
But hey, great news! I thought of a great way that will ensure you will never have to see them again. I hope you enjoyed your very last day on this website!![]()
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