Starting Pitching Mirage

[bpj]

Rank among pitchers with 30+ IP in Home games:
https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... geitems=30

Woo: 4th out of 193 qualified pitchers (1.54 ERA)
Miller: 8th/193 (2.09 ERA)
Gilbert: 22nd/193 (2.53 ERA)
Kirby: 29th/193 (2.74 ERA)
Castillio: 41st/193 (2.85 ERA)

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Rank among pitchers with 30+ IP in Away games:
https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... 8&month=16

Woo: 19th out of 168 qualified pitchers (2.56 ERA)
Gilbert: 69th/168 (3.81 ERA)
Kirby: 78th/168 (3.92 ERA)
Castillo: 99th/168 (4.35 ERA)
Miller: 117th/168 (4.75 ERA)


These guys are great at T-Mobile (so is every pitcher we face), but we have a pretty average staff overall imo. They're a mirage created by T-Mobile.

[bpj]

Here's an update for the 2025 season. The T-Mobile Mirage becomes even more apparent. We have nowhere near the best rotation in baseball. We have Bryan Woo and some guys that look good in T-Mobile, like every other pitcher does.




Rank among pitchers with 40+ IP in Home games:
https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... &pagenum=6

Woo: 24th out of 171 qualified pitchers (2.44 ERA)
Miller: 153rd/171 (5.80 ERA)
Gilbert: 18th/171 (2.24 ERA)
Kirby: 71st/171 (3.38ERA)
Castillio: 29th/171 (2.60 ERA)

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Rank among pitchers with 40+ IP in Away games:
https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... &pagenum=5

Woo: 44th out of 153 qualified pitchers (3.40 ERA)
Gilbert: 100th/153 (4.74 ERA)
Kirby: 114th/153 (5.16 ERA)
Castillo: 99th/153 (4.71 ERA)
Miller: 134th/153 (5.56 ERA)

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[Sibelius Hindemith]

Just don't let any of the local sports radio personalities and sports-writers know about that or it could cause them to become severely depressed or have a psychotic break.

[DavidGee24]

I'm thinking that Gilbert is at least 100th in home games thus far in 2026. Heaven help him when we go out on the road.

I guess as long as the hitters can improve as much as our pitchers devolve on the road it's not too bad of a thing. And Woo apparently doesn't give a shit where he pitches.

[GL_Storm]

I've brought this up before but I think this pitching staff very broadly relies way too much on fastballs. You see the issue with all of these guys, usually in the sixth and seventh innings - that magical 3rd time through the order when the pitcher is getting tired and the hitters are getting more dialed in on the starter's pitch shapes, velocity, and delivery.

[Donn Beach]

I've brought this up before but I think this pitching staff very broadly relies way too much on fastballs. You see the issue with all of these guys, usually in the sixth and seventh innings - that magical 3rd time through the order when the pitcher is getting tired and the hitters are getting more dialed in on the starter's pitch shapes, velocity, and delivery.

Here's an article about how they seem to approach the bullpen. It's sliders and sinkers

https://www.lookoutlanding.com/seattle- ... sh-simpson

[bpj]

I've brought this up before but I think this pitching staff very broadly relies way too much on fastballs. You see the issue with all of these guys, usually in the sixth and seventh innings - that magical 3rd time through the order when the pitcher is getting tired and the hitters are getting more dialed in on the starter's pitch shapes, velocity, and delivery.

Very interesting. Has to be an organizational approach right?



https://www.fangraphs.com/leaders/major ... &stats=sta