The trade off of perceived effort vs production.

[GL_Storm]

I don't think there's ever been the slightest hint of interest by the Mariners in Luis Arraez. It's like he's been black balled in the Mariner front office.

[DavidGee24]

I don't think there's ever been the slightest hint of interest by the Mariners in Luis Arraez. It's like he's been black balled in the Mariner front office.

Him and all Japanese players.

[Seattle or Bust]

I'll be the first to admit I wasn't a big supporter of them grabbing Arraez considering the WAR the previous 2 years.

But I do think he'd fit T-Mobile better than most as a table setter.

[bpj]

I don't think there's ever been the slightest hint of interest by the Mariners in Luis Arraez. It's like he's been black balled in the Mariner front office.

No, they havent been willing to consider anyone that's perceived as a defensive liability.

[D-train]

I don't think there's ever been the slightest hint of interest by the Mariners in Luis Arraez. It's like he's been black balled in the Mariner front office.

No, they havent been willing to consider anyone that's perceived as a defensive liability.

Refsnyder

[Donn Beach]

I don't think there's ever been the slightest hint of interest by the Mariners in Luis Arraez. It's like he's been black balled in the Mariner front office.

No, they havent been willing to consider anyone that's perceived as a defensive liability.

Dan Vogelbach, Jesse Winker, Teo Hernandez, Ace Reese

[Donn Beach]

Considering those names, Dipoto seems to have had issues fitting offense to Tmobile. Defense i think is like a safety net, counter the lack of value with an offensive first guy that ends up struggling at Tmobile. That being said, its a shame it seems Arozarena even though he can hit there still isnt a fit

[bpj]

I don't think there's ever been the slightest hint of interest by the Mariners in Luis Arraez. It's like he's been black balled in the Mariner front office.

No, they havent been willing to consider anyone that's perceived as a defensive liability.

Dan Vogelbach, Jesse Winker, Teo Hernandez, Ace Reese

Sure, and Randy Arozarena.

1B, DH, LF.

But they're not going to take the bat-first player like Arraez and put him at 2B.

They were only going to be interested in him as a DH because of how they perceived his defense.

When his value was obviously at 2B, regardless of dumbass defense.

Make an error, you still get the next out 70% of the time

Same with Canzone. Right fielder so they could stash another bat at DH. But, noooooo.

[seasports]

For the life of me I cannot understand why fans are still upset over Arozarena apparently dogging on a fly ball to left field.

He (aside from Canzone) is the only player on this roster that does not have his head fully shoved up his ass with a bat in his hands. To Randy's credit, he's transformed himself as a hitter this year. He works counts, his eye has improved immensely, he is taking 2-strike pitches to right field... and best of all? He is is working his ass off at the dish. Why is that not being celebrated but instead just accepted? Why is this effort not applauded?

You want to know what I think is dogging it? Hitters just mailing in AB's as often as the M's hitters do.

I'll take a lazy route to a fly ball over Julio NEVER making an adjustment in his approach. To me, him swinging for the fences over a slider for the 100th time in a row is far worse and selfish.

I'll take a lazy route to a fly ball over JP Crawford going on a 3 for 40 streak where he walked twice because his selfishness in knowing he has to swing the bat get a contract outweighs continuing what he's good at.

I'll take a lazy route to a fly ball over Luis Castillo sitting there pouting in the dugout b/c he's forced into relief work due to pitching like absolute dog shit while making $20M a year. You're telling me what Randy did is more selfish than that? A pitcher who is putting his pride in front of the team's performance?

Give me a break. Randy is the only player (aside from Canzone) worth watching on this God forsaken roster.

Agreed. A combination of nursing an injury (trainers have probably told him to take it easy) and just being a poor defensive player can look like a lack of effort. The real concern is why isn't he our DH? Does anyone really think Canzone is a worse defender?

[Gametime]

I don't think there's ever been the slightest hint of interest by the Mariners in Luis Arraez. It's like he's been black balled in the Mariner front office.

No, they havent been willing to consider anyone that's perceived as a defensive liability.

Yet, they had Canzone in the outfield.