Predict Our Final Record

[D-train]

6-5 in the past 11 with the Os and Royals coming up. I'll take the over on 55 wins for $1000

[:::]

I'm temtped to take you up on that especially since I expect Leake and possibly Gordon to get traded.

[ice99]

Yes I can see Leake and Gordon being traded. It'll probably be when one of the pitchers is ready, or in Gordon's case when Healy comes off the IL.

[Coeurd’Alene J]

I'm temtped to take you up on that especially since I expect Leake and possibly Gordon to get traded.

I’ll cover 50% for a 50% profit split...

Dtrain is reaching

[Happy as hell]

Is it beyond belief that Seager will be traded? I know his contract has some sort of poison pill, but Seager has got himself all buffed up and playing better now. I’m thinking he might want to go.

[maoling]

6-5 in the past 11 with the Os and Royals coming up. I'll take the over on 55 wins for $1000

Offering wagers on how much your life-long and beloved home team will suck, that's bad...so sad that has come to this.

But not as bad as the worst thing you can do, according to what my barely ex-Nazi Hotel and Restaurant professor said in class at WSU in 1976. According to Professor Kreck, the worst thing a person can do is, "Borrow money from your friends to drink."

[Sexymarinersfan]

Yes I can see Leake and Gordon being traded. It'll probably be when one of the pitchers is ready, or in Gordon's case when Healy comes off the IL.

Leake looks like he's pitching to get to get OUT of Seattle! The better he pitches, the higher his trade value.

[:::]

Is it beyond belief that Seager will be traded? I know his contract has some sort of poison pill, but Seager has got himself all buffed up and playing better now. I’m thinking he might want to go.

I think it's pretty unlikely unless the M's eat a bunch of money, and I mean a big chunk of change. All the poison pill means is that an additonal year of the contract kicks in if he's traded. While the M's could say sayonara to Kyle at the end of 2021 for a remaining total cost of about $50 million, any team trading for him would be paying him through 2022 for what I believe is an extra $15 million for that extra year. Since we're getting close to the halfway point, a team trading for Seager would potentially be on the hook for about $65 million clams. Money aside, I think a big issue is that none of the teams in contention are desparate for a third baseman. Seager would probaly have to play lights out for the next month for anybody to even think about placing a call to Dipoto to feel things out. Right now, it not like his spot on the roster is holding anybody back. I won't be surprised if he plays out his deal in Seattle. An offseason deal might be more likely than a deadline deal unless there's an injury.

Perusing MLBTR reminded me that Rendon and Sandoval (who just suffered a hand injury - not usre how serious) are probably available which would educe interest in Seager.

[Dr Naysay]

Is it beyond belief that Seager will be traded? I know his contract has some sort of poison pill, but Seager has got himself all buffed up and playing better now. I’m thinking he might want to go.

Is he playing better? 19 million bucks for a 218 average.....we are stuck with him.

[Hanjag]

Looks like I picked the perfect season to quit sniffing Mariners' glue. Never done this before in 42 seasons, but I quit watching and caring in late April. It's been a profoundly liberating experience.

A quick check of our current record has us at 30-44, but that record is deceiving because of our fake news hot start. The cold reality is that the M's are 17-42 and playing at .288 winning pct. since then. After factoring in the 13-2 fake news, Coug math tells me we will finish at 55-107 which will be good enough for the Mariners worst 162-game season in history. This should earn Dipoto an additional raise and extension, according to Mariners' corporate logic.

Ultimately, after September call-ups, I think they will probably finish even worse. My final prediction is 52-110.

Do you think they have what it takes to be our worst team ever?

It is strange to even consider that this could possibly be the worst M's team ever. In recent memory we had the:
2010 squad with a 61-101 record, 513 Runs, 698 Runs Allowed average 3.17 to 4.31, 168 ERA+ Cliff Lee and a 174 ERA+ from Felix on offense Ichiro had a 113 OPS+ and Branyan had a 123 OPS+ everybody else was sub 100 OPS+. They had Felix deliver a 7.2 WAR year as their best. The pitching was solid 100 ERA+, The hitting was not 79 OPS+.

The 1978 56-104 614 Runs, 834 Runs -220 run difference average 3.79 to 5.15. Allowed had the worst winning percentage in club history a .350 rate. They were the opposite of 2010 only 2 pitchers on the staff were above 100 OPS+ Closer Enrique Romo had a 104 and one of the call ups had 18 appearances of 110 OPS+. The Offense was decent 90 OPS+ as a team Lean Robert had a 146 OPS+ 4.4 WAR was the best player that year.

2019 M's 31-44 and just had a 5-4 road trip. 391 Runs, 459 Runs Allowed on pace for scoring 845, and giving up 991 average score 5.21 to 6.12. The team OPS+ is 111 and ERA+ 82. The best player EE is on pace for 4.32 WAR has been traded and Leake is now on pace for the best pitching WAR 3.9 but he will most likely be dealt as well.

The team has a .413 win percentage and that is a 67 win pace. The 13-2 start was not real but this team is no way near the stretch from 18-11 to 25 and 39. They have actually gone 6-5 over the last 11 even though no win streaks. That long streak of funk was a 7 up and 28 down .200 winning percentage.

In the modern era 1900 to present the lowest winning percentage was the 1916 Phil. Athletics .235. The team could lose Mike Leake, Dee, Tim Beckham, maybe even Healy, or or Domingo but I don't see being able to lose at a pace to get to 105 losses to set thee franchise mark. To get there they would have to lose at just over 70% of their game the rest of the way. The 52 and 110 is really kinda beyond any realistic math. They would have to go for a .240 win percentage the rest of the way. As I have said only one team in history managed to be that bad the 1916 A's had a .235 win percentage.

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