Jude weighs in

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Re: Jude weighs in

Post by Captain 97 » Fri Oct 31, 2025 7:16 pm

Big_Maple wrote:
Fri Oct 31, 2025 7:02 pm
Captain 97 wrote:
Fri Oct 31, 2025 6:57 pm
A couple of notes. If you can pull off Celestin, Cinjinte, Evans for Skubal that would be a steal. I suspect it will take more than that. BTV has that trade 51.6 to 44.7

Castillo has zero trade value. Nobody is taking him off your hands unless you pay most of his salary. And if you have to do that whats the point? Personally I'd rather let Castillo play out the final year of his contract and then you can have Sloan/Anderson slide into that spot when he leaves. If you bring in Skubal, I'd rather make room for him by trading Kirby who could actually bring back an impactful bat.
Everyone wants to trade Kirby. I sort of get it. But for my money, I'd put Miller on the chop. He has a nagging elbow issue (bone spur)? I saw some recent reports saying that he did not need surgery this off-season, but the fact that his elbow and "surgical procedure" are uttered in the same sentence suggests that he is injury prone, or injury imminent? As good as he is, let some other team assume the risk.

Your not going to get as much for Miller on the market. not that BTV is fool proof but they have Kirby valued at 57 and Miller at 10.6.

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Re: Jude weighs in

Post by Big_Maple » Fri Oct 31, 2025 7:26 pm

Captain 97 wrote:
Fri Oct 31, 2025 7:16 pm

Your not going to get as much for Miller on the market. not that BTV is fool proof but they have Kirby valued at 57 and Miller at 10.6.
Which is fine, IMHO. He's not as good as Kirby, so we are trading away a lesser pitcher with a higher potential for injury. And if (BIG if) the M's landed Skubal or Skenes, the loss of Miller would be minimal. Get a good reliever or closer in return. Then get Naylor. Figure out 2B and 3B with young, internal talent. Boom.

A lot of "if's" in the equation, but if we are going to trade a pitcher, I'd rather move Miller, all things considered.

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Re: Jude weighs in

Post by Seattle or Bust » Fri Oct 31, 2025 7:49 pm

Captain 97 wrote:
Fri Oct 31, 2025 7:16 pm
Big_Maple wrote:
Fri Oct 31, 2025 7:02 pm
Captain 97 wrote:
Fri Oct 31, 2025 6:57 pm
A couple of notes. If you can pull off Celestin, Cinjinte, Evans for Skubal that would be a steal. I suspect it will take more than that. BTV has that trade 51.6 to 44.7

Castillo has zero trade value. Nobody is taking him off your hands unless you pay most of his salary. And if you have to do that whats the point? Personally I'd rather let Castillo play out the final year of his contract and then you can have Sloan/Anderson slide into that spot when he leaves. If you bring in Skubal, I'd rather make room for him by trading Kirby who could actually bring back an impactful bat.
Everyone wants to trade Kirby. I sort of get it. But for my money, I'd put Miller on the chop. He has a nagging elbow issue (bone spur)? I saw some recent reports saying that he did not need surgery this off-season, but the fact that his elbow and "surgical procedure" are uttered in the same sentence suggests that he is injury prone, or injury imminent? As good as he is, let some other team assume the risk.

Your not going to get as much for Miller on the market. not that BTV is fool proof but they have Kirby valued at 57 and Miller at 10.6.
He’s not worth that little.

That tool has retardation anytime a player gets hurt or underperforms for a short amount of time.

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Re: Jude weighs in

Post by HawkandMariner88 » Sat Nov 01, 2025 5:34 am

Big_Maple wrote:
Fri Oct 31, 2025 5:49 pm
They will never sign Tucker. Pipe dream.

Trading for Skubal is sounding more like a possibility. Even for one year, that would likely complete one of the best pitching rotations in baseball - but at great cost to the farm.

Trading Castillo makes sense - especially if they go after Skubal. They won't carry a 6 man rotation, so get rid of the aging vet who costs the most.

Realistically, I see them trading for Skubal, trading Castillo for another OF, signing Naylor and letting the kids play 2B and 3B. Sign a solid reliever or two and I'd say it is a world series team.
I'd give up switchy before I'd give up Sloan or Anderson. No Castillo is not going anywhere. I don't see why you couldn't go with a 6 man rotation. I'm down for letting the kids play. If Williamson's glove is that much better at 3rd I'm willing to roll the dice. You gotta add another impact arm in the pen. I would really love a Bellinger signing & moving Randy. Question is where are you gonna find a high leverage arm.

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Re: Jude weighs in

Post by Lamda » Sat Nov 01, 2025 6:18 am

My only issue with trading for Skubal, which I love, is if you do that and send away top prospects than you go all-in and upgrade the offense as well. You don't just re-sign Naylor and Polanco, let Suarez walk and then play some kids. That's not a good enough offense as we saw this year. Assuming we only get 1 year of him then its WS or bust next year. You get Bregman or trade for a good 3B option. You look into a 2B or RF option that's a legit hitter. Not saying its likely but it would be foolish to get Skubal and leave our offense the same when it had glaring holes that were showcased in the playoffs.

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