The atmosphere at T-Mobile

[D-train]

An 85” HD TV + a fridge full of beer + sitting next to friends rather than bozos>>>>>than any seat at T-Mobile.

Last night I was in bed about 57 seconds after the game was over as opposed to at least 57 minutes if I'm at the game

[Petert]

I think things definitely took a turn downwards when they opened the SRO concourse in left center. That area has become just a social center, and to most of them, the fact that there is a ballgame happening is secondary. The other thing is that Seattle fans seem to have grown even more polite over the years. They can be intimidated by the more vociferous visiting fans, and call the usher if someone (no matter who) yells something passionate.

The majority are there for entertainment, and if the home team rallies, the meter goes up a tick, nothing more. I think no one retreats to a bar with their friends after a tough loss, heads in their hands, commiserating with anyone available, saying ‘what was x thinking of ?!?’ ‘why did y leave z in for so long ?’ ‘Gimme another PBR.’

We all go home to Masterpiece Theatre.

However - it was the same laissez-faire attitude in the few seasons (say from 88 on) before the ‘95 season. so maybe it takes something to cheer for to catalyze the novicained masses into something more appropriate.

[Hy Feiber]

I watched part of two of the Yankee-Dodger games in Los Angeles this past weekend, and it was a World Series atmosphere there. Even though the Dodger bats were quiet, their fans were into the game and noisy most of the time. Plus there were Yankee fans there too which added to the fun (and no, the Dodger fans didn't attack them, that's a Dodgers-Giants thing). On top of it, John Turturro owned the ninth inning of the third game. Even in losing two out of three, those Dodger fans had a great time.

Meanwhile, Mariner games are the worst they've even been crowd-wise. Now, while there were games in the early days that only drew a few thousand, at least those fans cheered loudly when the team did something. This season it has been ridiculously quiet at the ballpark, and even when a Mariner hits a game-tying or go-ahead home run, it's barely louder than when Rory McElroy drains a five-foot putt during the second round of the AT&T Pro/Am.

Our fan base seems to be about as dead as it can get. Does anyone here go to the home games and just get a sense of total apathy?

Haven’t been to a game in years, but it wasn’t always thusly.

I was such a cockeyed optimist I bought the 16 Game Package heralding the Reign of Bill Plummer, in 1992, with the arrival of Kevin Mitchell, who along with Griffey and Buhner were to be The Sock Exchange!

Ol Billy was promoted after a miserable performance as third base coach!

The Modern Game is getting weirder by the year,
silly guys pitching 1 inning to start, pitchers pampered only to go on the DL every time you turn around, position players who can’t go 20 games without injury, bench coaches, “fitness gurus,” et al.

Not to mention these idiotic long term contracts which seldom pan out for the team.

Few if any of these “greatest athletes ever” could hold a candle to Mays, Aaron, Clemente, Oliva, Mantle, and Banks.

Maybe Trout.

[Petert]

I watched part of two of the Yankee-Dodger games in Los Angeles this past weekend, and it was a World Series atmosphere there. Even though the Dodger bats were quiet, their fans were into the game and noisy most of the time. Plus there were Yankee fans there too which added to the fun (and no, the Dodger fans didn't attack them, that's a Dodgers-Giants thing). On top of it, John Turturro owned the ninth inning of the third game. Even in losing two out of three, those Dodger fans had a great time.

Meanwhile, Mariner games are the worst they've even been crowd-wise. Now, while there were games in the early days that only drew a few thousand, at least those fans cheered loudly when the team did something. This season it has been ridiculously quiet at the ballpark, and even when a Mariner hits a game-tying or go-ahead home run, it's barely louder than when Rory McElroy drains a five-foot putt during the second round of the AT&T Pro/Am.

Our fan base seems to be about as dead as it can get. Does anyone here go to the home games and just get a sense of total apathy?

Haven’t been to a game in years, but it wasn’t always thusly.

I was such a cockeyed optimist I bought the 16 Game Package heralding the Reign of Bill Plummer, in 1992, with the arrival of Kevin Mitchell, who along with Griffey and Buhner were to be The Sock Exchange!

Ol Billy was promoted after a miserable performance as third base coach!

...into an even more miserable performance as manager. Literally, a stinker.

[Captain 97]

I think things definitely took a turn downwards when they opened the SRO concourse in left center. That area has become just a social center, and to most of them, the fact that there is a ballgame happening is secondary. The other thing is that Seattle fans seem to have grown even more polite over the years. They can be intimidated by the more vociferous visiting fans, and call the usher if someone (no matter who) yells something passionate.

The majority are there for entertainment, and if the home team rallies, the meter goes up a tick, nothing more. I think no one retreats to a bar with their friends after a tough loss, heads in their hands, commiserating with anyone available, saying ‘what was x thinking of ?!?’ ‘why did y leave z in for so long ?’ ‘Gimme another PBR.’

We all go home to Masterpiece Theatre.

However - it was the same laissez-faire attitude in the few seasons (say from 88 on) before the ‘95 season. so maybe it takes something to cheer for to catalyze the novicained masses into something more appropriate.

What are you talking about. That has literally been there since the day the stadium opened.

[D-train]

I think things definitely took a turn downwards when they opened the SRO concourse in left center. That area has become just a social center, and to most of them, the fact that there is a ballgame happening is secondary. The other thing is that Seattle fans seem to have grown even more polite over the years. They can be intimidated by the more vociferous visiting fans, and call the usher if someone (no matter who) yells something passionate.

The majority are there for entertainment, and if the home team rallies, the meter goes up a tick, nothing more. I think no one retreats to a bar with their friends after a tough loss, heads in their hands, commiserating with anyone available, saying ‘what was x thinking of ?!?’ ‘why did y leave z in for so long ?’ ‘Gimme another PBR.’

We all go home to Masterpiece Theatre.

However - it was the same laissez-faire attitude in the few seasons (say from 88 on) before the ‘95 season. so maybe it takes something to cheer for to catalyze the novicained masses into something more appropriate.

What are you talking about. That has literally been there since the day the stadium opened.

I think more than 2% were watching the games in 2000-2003

[Captain 97]

I just think its odd that you would blame the standing room section rather than blame the fact that 90% of the seats are empty. Its not rocket science. People just don't like pay lots of money to watch bad baseball. At least we aren't like Tampa bay who draws 10k a game while they are in Playoff contention.

[Donn Beach]

they are 19th in attendance, that doesn't seem that bad considering their record, what do they have now, seventh worst? What is sad are the Indians at 23, they set the record for consecutive sellouts in 1997 was it? Then they went into an extended rebuild mode, eroded their fan base and its never come back. That is a cautionary tale for the idea that you can tank and lose and your fans will come back again, doesn't always happen

http://www.espn.com/mlb/attendance

[AT Funchal-Madeira]

This year I've been to Petco to watch the Padres, to Modesto to watch the Nuts, to the Las Vegas Ballpark to watch the Aviators, to Chuchanski Park to watch Fresno vs Tacoma AAA, and to Visallia to watch the Rawhide vs the Nuts. Kind of enjoyed sitting in Visalia *7-800 fans ringing cowbells, tiny stadium seats less than 2,000 and you are right on top of the players... being able to talk to players, coaches, and scouts at the game is really cool.... to me at least.

[D-train]

they are 19th in attendance, that doesn't seem that bad considering their record, what do they have now, seventh worst? What is sad are the Indians at 23, they set the record for consecutive sellouts in 1997 was it? Then they went into an extended rebuild mode, eroded their fan base and its never come back. That is a cautionary tale for the idea that you can tank and lose and your fans will come back again, doesn't always happen

http://www.espn.com/mlb/attendance

That to me is really weird. Yet the Browns pack the stadium for decades of horrid.