Re: Cano off to mediocre start!
Posted: Sun May 12, 2019 8:06 am
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Luckily this team has shed payroll and could be players next year or the following. We just can’t afford to be buying the Cano’s when we should be after pitching and not mediocre pitching either.DavidGee24 wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 8:06 amLuckily those guys grow on trees and other teams will trade their 1s to us for peanuts.
Yeah there was definitely hemming and hawing. I actually think the 13-2 start made me wish we HAD Diaz as I was goaded into believing we could contend for a WC. In the end Kelenic will make or break this trade.rockycola wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 3:09 amHalf happy. Was more than ok with Cano departing and less than ok with Diaz going. Ok with it now; the first 13 wins M's were fine without Diaz. Not much opportunity to save games in the past 27 (7-20). Can't save too many 15-1, 14-1 and 10-0 losses now can you?Freespeech wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 2:30 amThey did get Diaz in the deal so if Cano can hit .261 they probably ARE happy. Although Diaz is in a rough patch, 2 losses and a ND in his last 4. Started out on fire. Still I think we were all happy with the trade at the time, if I remember correctly.
Mariners sent $20 million to the Mets for Jay Bruce, reliever Anthony Swarzak and three prospects: former first-round draft picks Justin Dunn and Jarred Kelenic, plus right-hander Gerson Bautista.
Kelenic and Dunn were a great (potentially) return by themselves. Bruce has been fun to watch in a "don't blink, I may be gone tomorrow" sort of power display way.
Anthony Swarzak has been 66.7% dreadful (13 games, 2-2 record, 6.17 ERA). In 11 appearances, 11.2 innings, Swarzak has allowed 14 hits, (6 have sailed over the fence), 11 runs (8 earned)(not to mention other pitchers messes he let scamper home), he's walked 8, has 13 K's, 3 saves and 3 blown saves. I take 66.7% dreadful back........he's been 84.99999% bad - get rid of Swarzak.
Bautista is an unknown, either an unpolished gem or fools'gold. Rocket for an arm but wild, intamed and unharnessed. He has been injured for almost 2 months (right pectoral strain) and just joined Modesto for rehab. He's the wild card.
I think in the long run and in the $$$ department, M's will win this trade.
The only problem is that for the next two cycles, the starting pitching in free agency is pretty mediocre and there will be a ton of competition for the better arms. The top two arms in next year's group are probably Gerrit Cole and Madison Bumgarner. Arguably the top two in the 20/21 free agency will be Trevor Bauer and none other than James Paxton. Out of these 4, Cole is probably the only legit #1 - rumor has it the Astros want to extend him and this has something to do why they didn't tie up more money during the off season. Bumgarner who has dipped the last couple of years, might be a possibity for the M's. It looks like he wants to stay on the west coast. Seattle was not on his recently released no trade list (Astros were). Anyway, the best way for the M's to land a legit TOR is probably going to be to develop one.The Astroknott wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 11:07 amLuckily this team has shed payroll and could be players next year or the following. We just can’t afford to be buying the Cano’s when we should be after pitching and not mediocre pitching either.DavidGee24 wrote: ↑Sun May 12, 2019 8:06 amLuckily those guys grow on trees and other teams will trade their 1s to us for peanuts.
That was totally inevitable. For 5 years he loafed & slacked in Seattle, while the media & 95% of the guys on
Actually, about 95 percent of the posters in the forum did the exact opposite of that. Are you one of those people that reads something and then later when you think about it, it transforms into the exact opposite of what you read? Seriously, virtually everybody ripped on Cano over the years.Greatest M's Fan wrote: ↑Tue May 21, 2019 10:24 amFor 5 years he loafed & slacked in Seattle, while the media & 95% of the guys on
this forum licked his nutsack every single day.
Feel the love from the NY press!