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Re: Hey, Hey, Hey, It's Pfaadt Gilbert GT
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:27 pm
by Bil522
I know it is not PC but Cosby was a great storyteller. Here is the original story about Fat Albert
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=42yGK7pvgVc
Re: Hey, Hey, Hey, It's Pfaadt Gilbert GT
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:30 pm
by Seattle or Bust
According to Fangraphs, George Kirby has been worth 1.2 fWAR and Logan Gilbert just 0.6 fWAR despite Gilbert's 0.80 WHIP and 1.87 ERA. Kirby has a 1.11 WHIP and ERA of 4.18... Kirby leads all starting pitchers in FIP at 2.08 while Gilbert is is 29th with a 3.34.
Me thinks Fangraphs values FIP too much. The point is to allow other teams to not score runs...
Re: Hey, Hey, Hey, It's Pfaadt Gilbert GT
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:45 pm
by seth8734
Today's lineup screams runs. Sux to have Haniger on the bench but needs rest. Cal has been struggling so day off knew that was coming. Hopefully Seby catches well and produces at the plate today. Rivas debut. Hopefully he crushes it!
Re: Hey, Hey, Hey, It's Pfaadt Gilbert GT
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:45 pm
by D-train
Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:30 pm
According to Fangraphs, George Kirby has been worth 1.2 fWAR and Logan Gilbert just 0.6 fWAR despite Gilbert's 0.80 WHIP and 1.87 ERA. Kirby has a 1.11 WHIP and ERA of 4.18... Kirby leads all starting pitchers in FIP at 2.08 while Gilbert is is 29th with a 3.34.
Me thinks Fangraphs values FIP too much. The point is to allow other teams to not score runs...
Pitching fWAR is based exclusively on FIP. I totally agree and noticed that this morning as well.
BR has Gilbert at 1.2 bWAR and Kirby at 0.1 bWAR.
Re: Hey, Hey, Hey, It's Pfaadt Gilbert GT
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:52 pm
by Seattle or Bust
D-train wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:45 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:30 pm
According to Fangraphs, George Kirby has been worth 1.2 fWAR and Logan Gilbert just 0.6 fWAR despite Gilbert's 0.80 WHIP and 1.87 ERA. Kirby has a 1.11 WHIP and ERA of 4.18... Kirby leads all starting pitchers in FIP at 2.08 while Gilbert is is 29th with a 3.34.
Me thinks Fangraphs values FIP too much. The point is to allow other teams to not score runs...
Pitching fWAR is based exclusively on FIP. I totally agree and noticed that this morning as well.
BR has Gilbert at 1.2 bWAR and Kirby at 0.1 bWAR.
I think there's a middle ground to be achieved here.
I think both should apply FIP and R/9 50/50 of the current allocated values lol
Re: Hey, Hey, Hey, It's Pfaadt Gilbert GT
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:54 pm
by desbcoach
seth8734 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:45 pm
Today's lineup screams runs. Sux to have Haniger on the bench but needs rest. Cal has been struggling so day off knew that was coming. Hopefully Seby catches well and produces at the plate today. Rivas debut. Hopefully he crushes it!
It scream I hope we get 1 run but there is hope
Re: Hey, Hey, Hey, It's Pfaadt Gilbert GT
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:00 pm
by Seattle or Bust
desbcoach wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:54 pm
seth8734 wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:45 pm
Today's lineup screams runs. Sux to have Haniger on the bench but needs rest. Cal has been struggling so day off knew that was coming. Hopefully Seby catches well and produces at the plate today. Rivas debut. Hopefully he crushes it!
It scream I hope we get 1 run but there is hope
Good thing Pfaadt sucks. Career 4-10 with a 5.54 ERA.
In his only start against the M's he went 5.2 IP with 3 ER's. He gave up 8 hits and a walk.
Re: Hey, Hey, Hey, It's Pfaadt Gilbert GT
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:41 pm
by Sibelius Hindemith
No line-ups? What's the world coming to?
Re: Hey, Hey, Hey, It's Pfaadt Gilbert GT
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:46 pm
by seth8734
Haniger out Cal out. Basic same as last night just Rivas debut and Seby.
Re: Hey, Hey, Hey, It's Pfaadt Gilbert GT
Posted: Sun Apr 28, 2024 7:51 pm
by D-train
Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:52 pm
D-train wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:45 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote: ↑Sun Apr 28, 2024 6:30 pm
According to Fangraphs, George Kirby has been worth 1.2 fWAR and Logan Gilbert just 0.6 fWAR despite Gilbert's 0.80 WHIP and 1.87 ERA. Kirby has a 1.11 WHIP and ERA of 4.18... Kirby leads all starting pitchers in FIP at 2.08 while Gilbert is is 29th with a 3.34.
Me thinks Fangraphs values FIP too much. The point is to allow other teams to not score runs...
Pitching fWAR is based exclusively on FIP. I totally agree and noticed that this morning as well.
BR has Gilbert at 1.2 bWAR and Kirby at 0.1 bWAR.
I think there's a middle ground to be achieved here.
I think both should apply FIP and R/9 50/50 of the current allocated values lol
Yes! Can't fathom how they can be so stubborn and arrogant to not come together and have a standard WAR for the good of the game....