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Re: Ryan Divish on the Marine Layer
Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 10:30 pm
by Walla Walla Dawg II
Michael K. wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 6:53 pm
Just tired of the excuses. And Divish is a part of it. Stop telling me about all the guys that whined when they left because they are mental midgets and freaked out over losing a couple of HRs.
Bret Boone had the following splits in 2001.
Home .323/.355/.580/.935
Away .339/.389/.576/.965
19 dingers at home and 18 on the road
John Olerud
Home .285/.382/.495/.876
Away .319/.420/.451/.870
15 dingers at home and 6 on the road
Ichiro
Home .343/.379/.458/.836
Away .356/.384/.456/.840
5 dingers at home and 3 on the road
All three of those guys hit more homers at home than the road. Grand total of 39 at home and 27 on the road. I'm sick of the whining. Start hitting. I understand that was the best regular season in Mariner history, but why were they able to hit at home similar to how they hit on the road? Did we have some magical powers that blocked the Marine Layer back then?
Didn't these guys hit in Seattle BEFORE they made it more hitter friendly? I didn't spend a ton of time on this and couldn't figure out how to get career splits. BUT, this would make me believe if you are a good major league hitter? You can hit here. Maybe these guys are too mentally fragile or just not real good major league hitters? I'd love to see something over the past ten or twenty years that shows Mariner hitters and their home and away splits. Maybe blaming Seattle is just an excuse for guys that don't hit well for not hitting well?
It would be interesting to see what the averages are across the entire MLB.
Re: Ryan Divish on the Marine Layer
Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 11:09 pm
by AZOldDawg
For the life of me I can't figure out how the marine layer has anything to do with strike outs. Cut those in half and then we can have a conversation.
Re: Ryan Divish on the Marine Layer
Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 11:36 pm
by Coeurd’Alene J
Michael K. wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 6:53 pm
Just tired of the excuses. And Divish is a part of it. Stop telling me about all the guys that whined when they left because they are mental midgets and freaked out over losing a couple of HRs.
Bret Boone had the following splits in 2001.
Home .323/.355/.580/.935
Away .339/.389/.576/.965
19 dingers at home and 18 on the road
John Olerud
Home .285/.382/.495/.876
Away .319/.420/.451/.870
15 dingers at home and 6 on the road
Ichiro
Home .343/.379/.458/.836
Away .356/.384/.456/.840
5 dingers at home and 3 on the road
All three of those guys hit more homers at home than the road. Grand total of 39 at home and 27 on the road. I'm sick of the whining. Start hitting. I understand that was the best regular season in Mariner history, but why were they able to hit at home similar to how they hit on the road? Did we have some magical powers that blocked the Marine Layer back then?
Didn't these guys hit in Seattle BEFORE they made it more hitter friendly? I didn't spend a ton of time on this and couldn't figure out how to get career splits. BUT, this would make me believe if you are a good major league hitter? You can hit here. Maybe these guys are too mentally fragile or just not real good major league hitters? I'd love to see something over the past ten or twenty years that shows Mariner hitters and their home and away splits. Maybe blaming Seattle is just an excuse for guys that don't hit well for not hitting well?
Brett was on the juice
Re: Ryan Divish on the Marine Layer
Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 11:36 pm
by Coeurd’Alene J
AZOldDawg wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 11:09 pm
For the life of me I can't figure out how the marine layer has anything to do with strike outs. Cut those in half and then we can have a conversation.
Good point.
Re: Ryan Divish on the Marine Layer
Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 11:43 pm
by D-train
Coeurd’Alene J wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 11:36 pm
Michael K. wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 6:53 pm
Just tired of the excuses. And Divish is a part of it. Stop telling me about all the guys that whined when they left because they are mental midgets and freaked out over losing a couple of HRs.
Bret Boone had the following splits in 2001.
Home .323/.355/.580/.935
Away .339/.389/.576/.965
19 dingers at home and 18 on the road
John Olerud
Home .285/.382/.495/.876
Away .319/.420/.451/.870
15 dingers at home and 6 on the road
Ichiro
Home .343/.379/.458/.836
Away .356/.384/.456/.840
5 dingers at home and 3 on the road
All three of those guys hit more homers at home than the road. Grand total of 39 at home and 27 on the road. I'm sick of the whining. Start hitting. I understand that was the best regular season in Mariner history, but why were they able to hit at home similar to how they hit on the road? Did we have some magical powers that blocked the Marine Layer back then?
Didn't these guys hit in Seattle BEFORE they made it more hitter friendly? I didn't spend a ton of time on this and couldn't figure out how to get career splits. BUT, this would make me believe if you are a good major league hitter? You can hit here. Maybe these guys are too mentally fragile or just not real good major league hitters? I'd love to see something over the past ten or twenty years that shows Mariner hitters and their home and away splits. Maybe blaming Seattle is just an excuse for guys that don't hit well for not hitting well?
Brett was on the juice
But he was on it at home and the road and actually hit more HRs at home and had about the same OPS Home and Away. It refute the Marine Layer excuse.
Re: Ryan Divish on the Marine Layer
Posted: Thu May 02, 2024 11:45 pm
by Donn Beach
Actually, I was thinking...the emphasis is on a batted ball but how about pitched balls. Posted an article awhile ago that seemed to feel pitchers had an advantage coming out of spring training because of weather. So can a pitcher get a better bite on a breaking ball in cool damp weather?
Re: Ryan Divish on the Marine Layer
Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 1:30 am
by bpj
Donn Beach wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 11:45 pm
Actually, I was thinking...the emphasis is on a batted ball but how about pitched balls. Posted an article awhile ago that seemed to feel pitchers had an advantage coming out of spring training because of weather. So can a pitcher get a better bite on a breaking ball in cool damp weather?
They say balls break less in Colorado because of the elevation.
I would guess the opposite may be true for sea level parks but who knows.
Re: Ryan Divish on the Marine Layer
Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 2:07 am
by Sports Hernia
Michael K. wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 3:20 pm
Seattle Mariner hitters.
"we are tired of hearing how we can't hit"
Also Seattle Mariners hitters
26th in Runs Scored
27th in Hits
1st in Strike Outs
27th in Batting Average
27th in On Base %
25th in Slugging
25th in OPS
Cry me a fucking river. Stop sucking and people will stop talking about how you suck!
So much this!
Re: Ryan Divish on the Marine Layer
Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 2:08 am
by Sports Hernia
Coeurd’Alene J wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 11:36 pm
AZOldDawg wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 11:09 pm
For the life of me I can't figure out how the marine layer has anything to do with strike outs. Cut those in half and then we can have a conversation.
Good point.
Bingo!
Re: Ryan Divish on the Marine Layer
Posted: Fri May 03, 2024 2:30 pm
by Michael K.
AZOldDawg wrote: ↑Thu May 02, 2024 11:09 pm
For the life of me I can't figure out how the marine layer has anything to do with strike outs. Cut those in half and then we can have a conversation.
WINNER WINNER!
That is kind of the excuse making I am talking about though. I imagine Divish would compare that to the fact that they are over swinging because the ball came up short once or twice when they thought they got all of it. Again, more fucking excuses for mentally weak hitters that aren't very good hitters.
