Comprehensive look at who every mock draft has us taking

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Post by Sexymarinersfan » Wed May 27, 2020 9:43 pm

I know, I'm really excited. I'm really curious to see how my hard work is gonna pay off and how close I'll have been? I give you a ton of credit DT for opening my eyes on Gonzales. The only thing that scares me is the New Mexico background, but those fears are quieted a little from his Cape Cod experience.

Speaking of which, the Mrs. and I have been talking about taking a vacation up there.

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Re: Comprehensive look at who every mock draft has us taking

Post by bpj » Wed May 27, 2020 9:50 pm

First thing I think when I watch the Gonzales kid is how much he looks like Rendon when he was about the be drafted. Maybe a little shorter, but the kid has every chance of being very special.

https://youtu.be/kMRzjLVEdfc

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Re: Comprehensive look at who every mock draft has us taking

Post by D-train » Wed May 27, 2020 10:46 pm

Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 9:43 pm
I know, I'm really excited. I'm really curious to see how my hard work is gonna pay off and how close I'll have been? I give you a ton of credit DT for opening my eyes on Gonzales. The only thing that scares me is the New Mexico background, but those fears are quieted a little from his Cape Cod experience.

Speaking of which, the Mrs. and I have been talking about taking a vacation up there.
Do it! No idea if the CC league will go down this season but will would love to go to a game with you guys if so.
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Re: Comprehensive look at who every mock draft has us taking

Post by D-train » Wed May 27, 2020 10:47 pm

bpj wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 9:50 pm
First thing I think when I watch the Gonzales kid is how much he looks like Rendon when he was about the be drafted. Maybe a little shorter, but the kid has every chance of being very special.

https://youtu.be/kMRzjLVEdfc
Rendon is my exact comp and I feel if we don't take him we will have the same regrets that we do about Rendon.
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Re: Comprehensive look at who every mock draft has us taking

Post by Bil522 » Thu May 28, 2020 1:30 am

D-train wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 10:47 pm
bpj wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 9:50 pm
First thing I think when I watch the Gonzales kid is how much he looks like Rendon when he was about the be drafted. Maybe a little shorter, but the kid has every chance of being very special.

https://youtu.be/kMRzjLVEdfc
Rendon is my exact comp and I feel if we don't take him we will have the same regrets that we do about Rendon.
Would you regret it as much if we had our choice of Veen and Gonzales? I would go with Veen because he plays defense well and is LH bat...which we all know Safeco/ T-Mobil was made with a sweet swinging left handed OF

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Re: Comprehensive look at who every mock draft has us taking

Post by D-train » Thu May 28, 2020 1:33 am

Bil522 wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 1:30 am
D-train wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 10:47 pm
bpj wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 9:50 pm
First thing I think when I watch the Gonzales kid is how much he looks like Rendon when he was about the be drafted. Maybe a little shorter, but the kid has every chance of being very special.

https://youtu.be/kMRzjLVEdfc
Rendon is my exact comp and I feel if we don't take him we will have the same regrets that we do about Rendon.
Would you regret it as much if we had our choice of Veen and Gonzales? I would go with Veen because he plays defense well and is LH bat...which we all know Safeco/ T-Mobil was made with a sweet swinging left handed OF
The lefty aspect is appealing but how do you know he plays defense well? Also, I think my friend Nellie Cruz proved that righties do it better.
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Re: Comprehensive look at who every mock draft has us taking

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Thu May 28, 2020 2:36 am

D-train wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 1:33 am
Bil522 wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 1:30 am
D-train wrote:
Wed May 27, 2020 10:47 pm


Rendon is my exact comp and I feel if we don't take him we will have the same regrets that we do about Rendon.
Would you regret it as much if we had our choice of Veen and Gonzales? I would go with Veen because he plays defense well and is LH bat...which we all know Safeco/ T-Mobil was made with a sweet swinging left handed OF
The lefty aspect is appealing but how do you know he plays defense well? Also, I think my friend Nellie Cruz proved that righties do it better.
Veen, Gonzales, and Hancock are all 1A, 1B, and 1C, followed very closely by Detmers. I'm happy knowing that we'll at least get 1 of these players in a couple of weeks.

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Re: Comprehensive look at who every mock draft has us taking

Post by D-train » Thu May 28, 2020 2:37 am

Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 2:36 am
D-train wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 1:33 am
Bil522 wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 1:30 am


Would you regret it as much if we had our choice of Veen and Gonzales? I would go with Veen because he plays defense well and is LH bat...which we all know Safeco/ T-Mobil was made with a sweet swinging left handed OF
The lefty aspect is appealing but how do you know he plays defense well? Also, I think my friend Nellie Cruz proved that righties do it better.
Veen, Gonzales, and Hancock are all 1A, 1B, and 1C, followed very closely by Detmers. I'm happy knowing that we'll at least get 1 of these players in a couple of weeks.
Don't forget the M's pick is worth 5 point so follow your head not year heart.
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Post by Sexymarinersfan » Thu May 28, 2020 2:41 am

My head says Gonzales and Hancock will be off the board and that we'll be torn between Veen and Detmers who is more college ready with a higher floor.

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Re: Comprehensive look at who every mock draft has us taking

Post by Sexymarinersfan » Thu May 28, 2020 8:58 pm

D-train wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 2:37 am
Sexymarinersfan wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 2:36 am
D-train wrote:
Thu May 28, 2020 1:33 am


The lefty aspect is appealing but how do you know he plays defense well? Also, I think my friend Nellie Cruz proved that righties do it better.
Veen, Gonzales, and Hancock are all 1A, 1B, and 1C, followed very closely by Detmers. I'm happy knowing that we'll at least get 1 of these players in a couple of weeks.
Don't forget the M's pick is worth 5 point so follow your head not year heart.
Updated mock draft from MLB May 27th

https://www.mlb.com/news/mock-mlb-draft ... t-rounders

Seattle selects at #6 Emerson Hancock.

Nice little video attached to it too. So glad to see that my feelings towards Veen and Hancock are so closely resembled.

I think Torkelson, Martin, and Lacey are all locks. That Gonzales, Veen, and Hancock is where it begins to get murky.

Gonzalez
Kikuchi
Dunn
Sheffield
Gilbert
Kirby
Hancock
Carlson
Campbell
Williamson

That'd be a ton of top quality arms to sort through, wow!

Keith Law just posted his new 1st Round Mock Draft as well.

1.Torkelson, 1B, Arizona State

This seems more solidly Torkelson than it did two weeks ago, although I still can’t rule out Austin Martin or Asa Lacy here, especially if the Tigers want to shop their bonus around and see if they can save to go over-slot in Round 2.

2. Baltimore Orioles: Austin Martin, 3B/OF, Vanderbilt

I still think it’s whichever of Torkelson or Martin doesn’t go No. 1, but there are some rumblings they would take Heston Kjerstad on a discount. I have heard a few times they won’t go with a pitcher here.

3. Miami Marlins: Asa Lacy, LHP, Texas A&M

If Lacy had had a full spring, he might have ended up at No. 1 overall; he was that dominant when he did pitch, including an outing in which he made Nick Gonzales “look like a little kid” in the words of one scout.

4. Kansas City Royals: Zac Veen, OF, Spruce Creek (Fla.) HS

I had them taking Veen on an under-slot deal last time and I’ve heard that rumor again since then — although there’s always the risk I’m hearing my own projections repeated back to me after some kind of rumor-mill laundering process — in part because of the belief the Royals would prefer a bat after they’ve restocked the system with arms in the last two drafts. I’ve heard they’re cool on Gonzales.

5. Toronto Blue Jays: Emerson Hancock, RHP, Georgia

I’ve heard the Jays on Hancock, Max Meyer, Reid Detmers, and to a lesser degree Gonzales, as it seems like everyone expects them to take a fairly safe college arm.

6. Seattle Mariners: Reid Detmers, LHP, Louisville

Detmers has the best command in the draft, working 88-93 mph with three average or better pitches but perhaps lacking a clear swing and miss offering. He’s probably the closest to the majors of any college starter in the draft. I’ve heard the Mariners with him, Hancock or Gonzales.

7. Pittsburgh Pirates: Nick Gonzales, 2B/SS, New Mexico State

This seems to be Gonzales’ floor, and he may get here given that the last real look scouts had at him was his rough series at sea level against Texas A&M, but I don’t think he gets past the Pirates. If he’s gone, they could go with Patrick Bailey or Heston Kjerstad.

8. San Diego Padres: Max Meyer, RHP, Minnesota

If Meyer were 2 inches taller, he would probably be in consideration at No. 1 given his 70 fastball and 70 slider combination; the only real knocks on him are that he’s a 6-foot right-hander and that he throws his slider an inordinate amount. The Padres do remain the most likely team in the first 10 to go with a high school pick, although it would likely be a position player rather than a pitcher, with Hassell and Veen the probable targets.

9. Colorado Rockies: Heston Kjerstad, OF, Arkansas

The Rockies have tended to go for position players when one they especially like is on the board for them, rather than just defaulting to pitching as you might assume given their home environment. I could see them taking Veen if he’s here. I don’t know if they’d go with Meyer, who isn’t their type (they usually prefer taller pitchers, 6-foot-2 and up, at least in the first round), but he’d help them quickly.

10. Los Angeles Angels: Robert Hassell III, OF, Independence (Tenn.) HS

If one of the college arms listed above slips, I think they’d go that direction, especially Meyer given his proximity to the majors.

11. Chicago White Sox: Patrick Bailey, C, NC State

Bailey is an offensive catcher but projects to stay at the position long-term, fitting the White Sox philosophy of going college in the first round even if they want to take higher-ceiling high school guys later.


I have to say that I don't like Detmers over Gonzales but I don't hate it. With subpar fastball velocity, that just doesn't get me excited as much as the thrill of Gonzales. That being said, I think its Detmers Supreme command and 3 plus plus pitches that get Detmers over the finish to Seattle's choice at 6, in this scenario.
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