Way too early offseason

[D-train]

These days the Mariners probably shy away from posting fees. Though I don't know if there's a way to predict what their approach could be going forward. They could be feeling more confident in their financial situation

They clearly placed a ban on Asian players since the Kikuchi debacle. Though Polanco looks part Asian.

[Donn Beach]

These days the Mariners probably shy away from posting fees. Though I don't know if there's a way to predict what their approach could be going forward. They could be feeling more confident in their financial situation

They clearly placed a ban on Asian players since the Kikuchi debacle. Though Polanco looks part Asian.

Debacle? Three years $40 mil, 3 war and an all Star game, declines his option, gets another similar contract from the blue jays

[Optimistic M's Fan]

Maybe I'm in the minority here but I'm shipping off Luis Castillo for a halfway decent bullpen arm or maybe we can revisit the Tristan Casas situation. Frees up 24 Million or so and should get us a useful piece back. I'm shipping off Arozarena for another useful piece OR trying to lock him up on a 4 year deal for 60 mil or so, dropping the yearly amount down slightly. If you can get rid of those two thats 42 mil freed up, garver 12 mil, Haniger off the books as well. I'd be fine rolling out Evans in place of Castillo for half a year until we can bring up Anderson or make a deadline deal. We should be able to bring Naylor back at 18-20 mil a year and even after pay increases we should have 30 mil or so to bring in an outfielder and possibly re-sign Polanco. Keep Williamson at 3rd for now until Emerson is ready.
Robles RF
Julio CF
Raleigh C
Naylor 1st
Polanco 2nd
Casas DH
FA/TRADE LF
Williamson 3b
JP SS

Woo
Gilbert
Kirby
Miller
Evans/Anderson

[DavidGee24]

Maybe I'm in the minority here but I'm shipping off Luis Castillo for a halfway decent bullpen arm or maybe we can revisit the Tristan Casas situation. Frees up 24 Million or so and should get us a useful piece back. I'm shipping off Arozarena for another useful piece OR trying to lock him up on a 4 year deal for 60 mil or so, dropping the yearly amount down slightly. If you can get rid of those two thats 42 mil freed up, garver 12 mil, Haniger off the books as well. I'd be fine rolling out Evans in place of Castillo for half a year until we can bring up Anderson or make a deadline deal. We should be able to bring Naylor back at 18-20 mil a year and even after pay increases we should have 30 mil or so to bring in an outfielder and possibly re-sign Polanco. Keep Williamson at 3rd for now until Emerson is ready.
Robles RF
Julio CF
Raleigh C
Naylor 1st
Polanco 2nd
Casas DH
FA/TRADE LF
Williamson 3b
JP SS

Woo
Gilbert
Kirby
Miller
Evans/Anderson

Robles? We got sold a Bill Of Goods on him. Dude had a couple good months and we threw him a big bag of money. Yes, he got injured this season but supposedly he was healthy when he was reactivated and he was just horrible. Nothing but shitty AB after shitty AB in the postseason. At least Canzone had a really good regular season in 2025, I'd be keeping HIS bat in the lineup instead of Robles.

[DavidGee24]

These days the Mariners probably shy away from posting fees. Though I don't know if there's a way to predict what their approach could be going forward. They could be feeling more confident in their financial situation

They clearly placed a ban on Asian players since the Kikuchi debacle. Though Polanco looks part Asian.

I don't know why the hell we stopped going after Japanese players, I'm really wondering if Ichiro and his legacy have something to do with it. I know, crazy talk but crazier things have happened.

I want Munetaka Murakami. He'll strike out a lot and his defense is suspect, but he also gets on base a lot and he's the premier power hitter in Japan. And he's only 25. So of course we'll make no effort whatsoever to get him. Kazuma Okamoto might be just about as good even though he's 29. Oh wait, we're not going to make any effort whatsoever to get him either.

[bpj]

These days the Mariners probably shy away from posting fees. Though I don't know if there's a way to predict what their approach could be going forward. They could be feeling more confident in their financial situation

They clearly placed a ban on Asian players since the Kikuchi debacle. Though Polanco looks part Asian.

Debacle? Three years $40 mil, 3 war and an all Star game, declines his option, gets another similar contract from the blue jays

Classic bounty99 post.

[bpj]

Maybe I'm in the minority here but I'm shipping off Luis Castillo for a halfway decent bullpen arm or maybe we can revisit the Tristan Casas situation. Frees up 24 Million or so and should get us a useful piece back. I'm shipping off Arozarena for another useful piece OR trying to lock him up on a 4 year deal for 60 mil or so, dropping the yearly amount down slightly. If you can get rid of those two thats 42 mil freed up, garver 12 mil, Haniger off the books as well. I'd be fine rolling out Evans in place of Castillo for half a year until we can bring up Anderson or make a deadline deal. We should be able to bring Naylor back at 18-20 mil a year and even after pay increases we should have 30 mil or so to bring in an outfielder and possibly re-sign Polanco. Keep Williamson at 3rd for now until Emerson is ready.
Robles RF
Julio CF
Raleigh C
Naylor 1st
Polanco 2nd
Casas DH
FA/TRADE LF
Williamson 3b
JP SS

Woo
Gilbert
Kirby
Miller
Evans/Anderson

Remember "the crest"??

If they traded off Arozarena and Castillo, the payroll would be right around $100M.

They're $90M under the luxury tax threshold as they sit now.

Their payroll on the books for 2027 is $77M and 2028 is $55M.

Turns out "the crest" wasn't all that cresty.

I'm all for trading those two. I think it's good business. Brings in talent for expiring, expensive contracts.

Can't let good players walk out of your organization without getting a return imo.

[Big_Maple]

I'm all for trading those two. I think it's good business. Brings in talent for expiring, expensive contracts.

Can't let good players walk out of your organization without getting a return imo.

I'd be down with that, too. I thought about trading Castillo last year - I thought he'd be the weakest link and he was definitely the most expensive. Getting rid of him now would make sense - but only if we took that money and went out and signed a stud or two. I would hate for front office weenies to trade away talent for middling journeymen just to pocket the cash.

This will never happen, but I feel like what this year taught us is that we are close, but that we need to add a few key pieces. In poker terms, we need to go all-in. We need to max out the credit card. We are almost there - but 2, maybe 3 savvy investments, and at this time next year we could be on the inside looking out rather than hobbling to the offseason like the other 28 teams.

The Jays have the 5th highest payroll and Dodgers have the highest. We are 16th. Money matters.

We don't have to spend stupid money like the Mets and the Yankees. We just have to open the coffers for a few big names who make sense to the team, and not just because they are the biggest names in free agency.

Fuck it all - let's go get Bregman. Screw the naysayers - bring Naylor back. Throw caution to the wind and drain the farm and get Paul Skenes. Add 2 decent bullpen arms and we've got a team that would go head to head with the Dodgers - and possibly come out on top. We'd easily be the best team in the AL West for the next 5 years.

(BTW - even as I reread this, I realize that it is the most obvious statement in the history of obvious statements, but I hope I qualified it a little "This will never happen, but I feel like what this year taught us is that we are close, but that we need to add a few key pieces." - ~ Captain Obvious)

[HawkandMariner88]

Everyone knows damn well Skubal & Skenes aren't re-signing with their current teams. If it's me I'm giving up 1-2 guys from our rotation plus 2-3 of our top prospects. Again your not gonna re-sign all 5 of your starters. Why not shock the baseball world. I don't care if it includes Laz or whoever. For bullpen I'd think you'd only need to add a lefty realistically. Roll with what you got. Nothing wrong with Bazardo, Brash, or Munny. I just really want another high contact guy to go with Naylor. Who fits that bill is the question. Randy just doesn't scream leadoff guy to me. Not watching him swing at least. Not unless he tweaks his swing a little bit. But definitely going all in for Skenes despite what skeptics would say. I'll take anyone who wants to bet me he's not re-signing with Pittsburgh so they might as well get a haul for him while they can.

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/466 ... -rodriguez

It makes you wonder: Does this team need an ace? Perhaps one like Tarik Skubal, who is entering his final year with the Detroit Tigers before free agency and will see trade speculation follow him all winter if the Tigers don't sign him to an extension. The Mariners have the prospects and the pitching depth to at least make a serious inquiry into Skubal.

Would Bregman even consider coming here. I just wish they would stop assuming every one of their prospects is gonna be great. Your not keeping all of them. Why not go get you an ace or another potential superstar. I'll keep banging my head for Maikel Garcia in KC. Everyone can use pitching. We have it in spades. People think I'm nuts & it'll never happen or they won't move him. Again who couldn't use good quality young pitching. We already have that what we don't have is a stud at the hot corner who can swing it & also get on base with speed.

3rd base stats

.351 OBP (2nd among 3B)
.286 avg (2nd)
9.3 BB% (5th)
12.6 K% out of 666 PA (3rd)
.347 wOBA (T-3rd)
.344 xwOBA (6th)
121 wRC+ (6th)
17.2 OWAR (4th)
14.9 DWAR (2nd)
5.6 WAR (2nd) right behind JRam in Cleveland
.74 BB/K (2nd)
5.4 speed score (3rd)
97 wRC (3rd)
18.3 wRAA (3rd)
55.1 RAR (2nd)


Again I know guys on here think I'm nuts & I know they re-signed Witt to a big deal but I bet they'd love some young pitching even more. If your gonna make a splash somewhere why not make it be this one.

[D-train]

These days the Mariners probably shy away from posting fees. Though I don't know if there's a way to predict what their approach could be going forward. They could be feeling more confident in their financial situation

They clearly placed a ban on Asian players since the Kikuchi debacle. Though Polanco looks part Asian.

Debacle? Three years $40 mil, 3 war and an all Star game, declines his option, gets another similar contract from the blue jays

why give a dime to anyone 5 minutes into a rebuild. Could have use that $40M this season, right???