Encarcion to yanks

[bpj]

If anybody had told me we would end up with that group of young players plus $50 million for trading Cano and Diaz- because we all know Cano was what made all this necessary- I would have been shocked.

Imo this has little to do with anything else. Bruce and EE were always short timers.

[Coeurd’Alene J]

How about this for the next big trade idea. We convince the Marlins to sign each Ichiro to a minor league deal $100. JD pays $99 of it. We then trade Dee Gordon to the Marlins for Ichiro. We pay all but $1 of Gordon salary.

Mariners ownership is happy because they think that we saved a dollar.
The Marlins are happy cuz they got Gordon for only $2
Ichiro's happy cuz he gets to pretend he's a major league baseball player again
The idiot sector of the Mariner fanbase is happy because they get to watch Ichiro again
JD is happy because only cost him $99 out of his own pocket to look like a hero in both the eyes of ownership and the idiot sector of the Mariner fan
Dee Gordon is happy cuz it gets the hell out of Seattle

The rare win win win win win scenario

F...ing Genius

[ice99]

Ice~

According to this, the M's (and their cash from TB) are paying all but $3M of Encarnacion's salary. The M's are also paying the $5M option for next year.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... RQ/pubhtml

If that is true and JD is paying for everything except 3 million than he has no respect from the other GMs and he needs to be fired.

I hope to Gawd that is some Yankee homer kid in his basement but if it is true we need an antifa style uprising against the moron.

Roster resource has something a little more palatable:
https://www.rosterresource.com/mlb-new- ... kees-info/

It says 1/2 the salary and 1/2 the buy out. That would mean the trade something like 8 million in salary relief. If the Yanks were supposed to be the winning bidders how much salary did Colorado and Houston expect Seattle to pay to add an elite bat at a position of weakness for them?

Color me confused about value.

I don't know how many times I have proposed something like we are competing for the playoffs someone has player X owed big $ is out of it and is short term and not projected to recoup anything from a qualifier etc,etc.
I have been blown up with posters saying we don't have enough to get the EE type player that we needed at the time. I would be proposing something interesting like M's top 30 #9 and our 2nd best BP prospect or some such.

I see Roster Resource has the figures updated to $6M and change that the M's and Yankees will pay. The M's will pay for the $5M buyout from the TB money so that is a wash.

EE was going to be off the books either way. It's a head scratcher, they're not going to use that money so why not pay more for the better prospect? They only saved $6M. Dipoto took on $9M and traded 3 prospects for Lind.

[Hy Feiber]

Ice~

According to this, the M's (and their cash from TB) are paying all but $3M of Encarnacion's salary. The M's are also paying the $5M option for next year.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... RQ/pubhtml

If that is true and JD is paying for everything except 3 million than he has no respect from the other GMs and he needs to be fired.

I hope to Gawd that is some Yankee homer kid in his basement but if it is true we need an antifa style uprising against the moron.

Roster resource has something a little more palatable:
https://www.rosterresource.com/mlb-new- ... kees-info/

It says 1/2 the salary and 1/2 the buy out. That would mean the trade something like 8 million in salary relief. If the Yanks were supposed to be the winning bidders how much salary did Colorado and Houston expect Seattle to pay to add an elite bat at a position of weakness for them?

Color me confused about value.

I don't know how many times I have proposed something like we are competing for the playoffs someone has player X owed big $ is out of it and is short term and not projected to recoup anything from a qualifier etc,etc.
I have been blown up with posters saying we don't have enough to get the EE type player that we needed at the time. I would be proposing something interesting like M's top 30 #9 and our 2nd best BP prospect or some such.

I see Roster Resource has the figures updated to $6M and change that the M's and Yankees will pay. The M's will pay for the $5M buyout from the TB money so that is a wash.

EE was going to be off the books either way. It's a head scratcher, they're not going to use that money so why not pay more for the better prospect? They only saved $6M. Dipoto took on $9M and traded 3 prospects for Lind.

And the real BullCrap with the Lind deal is that Jerry D had just dumped Trumbo purportedly to save 9 mil!

But he clearly didn’t care for Trumbo, traded him previously to AZ.

Of course Trumbo has a career year, hits 47 hrs,
M’s miss playoffs by 3?

[D-train]

Ice~

According to this, the M's (and their cash from TB) are paying all but $3M of Encarnacion's salary. The M's are also paying the $5M option for next year.

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/ ... RQ/pubhtml

If that is true and JD is paying for everything except 3 million than he has no respect from the other GMs and he needs to be fired.

I hope to Gawd that is some Yankee homer kid in his basement but if it is true we need an antifa style uprising against the moron.

Roster resource has something a little more palatable:
https://www.rosterresource.com/mlb-new- ... kees-info/

It says 1/2 the salary and 1/2 the buy out. That would mean the trade something like 8 million in salary relief. If the Yanks were supposed to be the winning bidders how much salary did Colorado and Houston expect Seattle to pay to add an elite bat at a position of weakness for them?

Color me confused about value.

I don't know how many times I have proposed something like we are competing for the playoffs someone has player X owed big $ is out of it and is short term and not projected to recoup anything from a qualifier etc,etc.
I have been blown up with posters saying we don't have enough to get the EE type player that we needed at the time. I would be proposing something interesting like M's top 30 #9 and our 2nd best BP prospect or some such.

I see Roster Resource has the figures updated to $6M and change that the M's and Yankees will pay. The M's will pay for the $5M buyout from the TB money so that is a wash.

EE was going to be off the books either way. It's a head scratcher, they're not going to use that money so why not pay more for the better prospect? They only saved $6M. Dipoto took on $9M and traded 3 prospects for Lind.

Exactly. Any money saved this year will never be seen again.

[Petert]

Maybe there’s another iron in the fire for us on the way down...

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2019/06/ ... arket.html

[:::]

Roster resource has something a little more palatable:
https://www.rosterresource.com/mlb-new- ... kees-info/

It says 1/2 the salary and 1/2 the buy out. That would mean the trade something like 8 million in salary relief. If the Yanks were supposed to be the winning bidders how much salary did Colorado and Houston expect Seattle to pay to add an elite bat at a position of weakness for them?

Color me confused about value.

I don't know how many times I have proposed something like we are competing for the playoffs someone has player X owed big $ is out of it and is short term and not projected to recoup anything from a qualifier etc,etc.
I have been blown up with posters saying we don't have enough to get the EE type player that we needed at the time. I would be proposing something interesting like M's top 30 #9 and our 2nd best BP prospect or some such.

I see Roster Resource has the figures updated to $6M and change that the M's and Yankees will pay. The M's will pay for the $5M buyout from the TB money so that is a wash.

EE was going to be off the books either way. It's a head scratcher, they're not going to use that money so why not pay more for the better prospect? They only saved $6M. Dipoto took on $9M and traded 3 prospects for Lind.

Exactly. Any money saved this year will never be seen again.

Yup. For what it's worth, right now the M's have $20M on the books in dead money for next year for what they owe to Cano, Bruce and Carlos Santana. This figure may go up if Leake and/or Gordon get moved. Things don't potentially loosen up financially until 2021. Assuming the same GM and same ownership group at that time,
I'm not expecting the organization to make a run at any long term large contracts for high profile free agents. Point being, I'm not sure when the fans will feel like they are seeing the $ dividends from these moves.

[D-train]

They will be traumatized by the Cano contract for all eternity and will be so thankful to get out of it then will never agree to sign off on anything remotely similar ever again..........

[bpj]

Even if the $10 million saved from Bruce and Encarnacion just goes towards the $'s they paid to move Cano, who cares?

At least we're not stuck with Cano's ichiro/Felix-esque overpays into their downward career arc years.

In other words, there is $10 mil back of the money they had to pay to shed Cano.

[:::]

One could argue that Felix and Seager extensions were worse investments than the Cano contract. From a WAR cost, the M's have probably come out ahead on Cano.