Tankathon is on!

[Hanjag]

PI is going off of this year only. Where are you seeing that 2019 will be included again. I don't see it because it already determined last year's draft. 60 games is enough of a sample. Also it would delegitimize the playoffs this season. They would basically be saying 60 games is enough for to determine playoff teams but not for draft order???? Idiotic.

https://prospectinsider.com/2021-mlb-dr ... -for-no-1/

I did not make it up I did include a link at quote that said they could alter it

That's what I missed. Could you please post again. Thanks.

This is it but I snipped the main point below
https://www.masslive.com/redsox/2020/08 ... ocker.html

The article states that the agreement has been written:
in March stated, “In the event that each Club plays less than 81 regular season games in 2020, the Office of the Commissioner shall have the right, after conferring in good faith with the MLBPA, to modify the Draft order.”

[Hanjag]

Boston could be for real:
They have the 2nd worst record and have lost 7 in a row.
The traded Mookie Betts but still have solid players in the field
DH JD Martinez
1B Mitch Moorland
JBJ, Bogarts, Beintendi, Devers, Chavis, Verdugo, Pilar
But the pitching sucks the BP is as nameless as ours and I could not recognize more than two of the starters Perez, and Eovaldi!
They are 2 years removed from a World series win.

[Vogelbomb]

I see us for all tense and purposes in a race for the no. 2 overall because the Pirates are really bad and going to easily lock up the no. 1. So let's get it done. Let's go. Give me that no. 2!!

[DavidGee24]

Results of 2015 MLB draft (plenty of time):

Top ten picks:
One superstar (Alex Bregman) who went at #2.
One good player (Andrew Benintendi) who went at #7.
Two average players (Dansby Swanson and Ian Happ) who went at #1 and #9.
One marginal player (Kyle Tucker) who went at #5.
One player (Brendan Rogers) who's 22 and the Rockies top prospect who went at #3. No guarantees mind you.
One pitcher (Dillon Tate) who just cracked the majors after sucking in the minors and isnt listed as a top prospect who went at #4.
One pitcher (Carson Fulmer) who has sucked over four seasons who went at #8.
A pitcher (Tyler Jay) and player (Cornelius Randolph) who look like busts and went at #6 and #10.

This is about the norm for first rounds in MLB drafts, sometimes better, sometimes worse. I'll never understand why any baseball fan roots for draft position. It's a crap shoot and they're not even going to be rookies for at least three years, yet we act like we're jockeying for the baseball equivalent of Kevin Durant.

[Hanjag]

Results of 2015 MLB draft (plenty of time):

Top ten picks:
One superstar (Alex Bregman) who went at #2.
One good player (Andrew Benintendi) who went at #7.
Two average players (Dansby Swanson and Ian Happ) who went at #1 and #9.
One marginal player (Kyle Tucker) who went at #5.
One player (Brendan Rogers) who's 22 and the Rockies top prospect who went at #3. No guarantees mind you.
One pitcher (Dillon Tate) who just cracked the majors after sucking in the minors and isnt listed as a top prospect who went at #4.
One pitcher (Carson Fulmer) who has sucked over four seasons who went at #8.
A pitcher (Tyler Jay) and player (Cornelius Randolph) who look like busts and went at #6 and #10.

This is about the norm for first rounds in MLB drafts, sometimes better, sometimes worse. I'll never understand why any baseball fan roots for draft position. It's a crap shoot and they're not even going to be rookies for at least three years, yet we act like we're jockeying for the baseball equivalent of Kevin Durant.

Ya but.
Even in baseball there are run away #1's. KG Jr., Alex Rod, Harper, S Strassburg, and the strength of the draft is the 1st Rd and the higher up you are the better chances you have. I mean there are entire rounds in some drafts that don't produce a single player from any team. Look at 1976 to 1995 and the #1s don't have many busts at all and most of them I don't have to look up. The lone true bust was Brien Taylor who hurt his shoulder in a fight and became "one of three players to be drafted first overall in the Major League Baseball Draft and never play in the major leagues, along with Steve Chilcott and Mark Appel.''

Al Chambers made MLB but played less than 60 games, I believe today he would have been given more ABS
120 ABS .208 .326 .292 .618 in mlb OBP
He had speed to
838 games in minors .288 .388 .466 .854 38 triples,, and 97 SB, was 6'4" so I would expect the power to develop but was really a victim of the times.
He basically averaged 300/400/500 at AAA for 4 years the last he was given 4 ABS over 4 games in MLB,
After the 2nd he put up this line in his longest stretch
.209 .376 .299 .675
He would start the next year in AAA again and add .150 points to his OPS and be given 22 games and 50 odd PAs and told to get the damb bat off your shoulder.224 .269 .306 .575

Oh well

[D-train]

Chambers is only 59. I would prefer him to Mallex.

[Vogelbomb]

I don't know where you get this 3 yrs nonsense you keep citing. There are plenty of examples of draft picks making their debut within a year of being drafted let alone 2. Take a look at this year. Brady Singer for the Royals and now Casey Mize and Tarik Skubal of the Tigers making debuts 2 yrs out. Alec Bohm of the Phillies just did, too

[D-train]

Tom Gialanella replied
Dick Fain
@dickfain
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4h
What is your level of confidence that that Dipoto’s plan will turn the Mariners into a championship contender within the next 3 to 4 years?
0-25%
48%
Between 25-50%
30.3%
Between 50-75%
18.2%
Almost certain
3.5%

I went with 50-75% as in 51%

[AT Funchal-Madeira]

Results of 2015 MLB draft (plenty of time):


This is about the norm for first rounds in MLB drafts, sometimes better, sometimes worse. I'll never understand why any baseball fan roots for draft position. It's a crap shoot and they're not even going to be rookies for at least three years, yet we act like we're jockeying for the baseball equivalent of Kevin Durant.

Well, I'd hardly agree with that..the really good draft picks take far less time to make it to the majors, whether out of college or more likely, out of high school.. the MLB draft is not an exact science, but it is a science... History shows you have more to gain drafting out of high school.... and a good draft changes your franchise for a decade.... Look at the first June draft in 1965... great draft... First player taken was Rick Monday by the A's ... out of college.. took one year to break into the Majors and played 19 years The Mets opted for a high school pitcher Les Rohr and got a busted pick.... gave them three injury plagued years... but they changed their franchise with a high school pitcher 226th pick, Nolan Ryan who only took one year to debut in the majors.....

The Reds drafted Bernie Carbo in the first round out high school, Johnny Bench out of high school in the second round, and Hal McCrae out of college in the third round...the Big Red Machine was being formed.

Players like Chipper Jones, Alex Rodriguez, Bryce Harper, Stephen Strasburg, Garrit Cole, Joe Maur, Josh Hamilton and Ken Griffey Jr. have gone as the first pick so you do sometimes get the equivalent of a Kevin Durant. You always have the chance.... Guarantee there's a few franchise changers in this next year's draft..And guess what...six of those guys were position players and they all came out of high school... The two pitchers came out of college....

[DavidGee24]

Historical list of when we pick 1-8:

1: Al Chambers, Mike Moore, Junior, A-Rod
2: Bill Swift, Dustin Ackley, Danny Hultzen
3: Roger Salkeld, Jose Cruz Jr, Jeff Clement, Mike Zunino
4: None
5: Brandon Morrow
6: Tito Nanni, Darnell Coles, Marc Newfield, Alex Jackson, Emerson Hancock
7: Darrel Akerfelds, Mike Campbell
8: Patrick Lennon

Junior, A-Rod, two good seasons out of Moore, two good seasons out of Swift, 1/2 a good season out of Cruz before trading him for bullpen slop, one good season out of Morrow, and one good season out of Zunino. That's it. Out of 20 top-8 picks.

I hope our guys clobber the Dodgers today. We pick where we pick.