Seager Option

[D-train]

Well for his career he is at .721 at home and and .801 on the road and that includes all the years before they moved the fences in. So its real but this year it was crazy whacked.

I meant OPS+ but yes this season does seem to be an outlier. Perhaps his commitment to pulling everything and hitting homers has something to do with it.

Safeco is actually more friendly to left handed pull hitters than to righties. And he was pulling everything on the road too.

Yeah I don't get how it negatively impact anybody but RH HR hitters. Is it just a mental thing?

[bpj]

Overall the Mariners rankings among the 30 MLB clubs:

30th in OPS in Home games
15th in OPS in Away games

20th in HR in Home games
11th in HR in Away games

30th in singles in Home games
16th in singles in Away games

28th in doubles in Home games
16th in doubles in Away games

29th in triples in Home games
28th in triples in Away games


They do hit fewer homeruns in their Home park than most teams do, but it's their singles and doubles that really go missing and cause the low OPS.

M's ranked 20th in HR in Home games, but 30th in both SLG and OBP because more batted balls that are singles and doubles in other parks are outs in T-Mobile, for some reason.

[D-train]

Overall the Mariners rankings among the 30 MLB clubs:

30th in OPS in Home games
15th in OPS in Away games

20th in HR in Home games
11th in HR in Away games

30th in singles in Home games
16th in singles in Away games

28th in doubles in Home games
16th in doubles in Away games

29th in triples in Home games
28th in triples in Away games


They do hit fewer homeruns in their Home park than most teams do, but it's their singles and doubles that really go missing and cause the low OPS.

M's ranked 20th in HR in Home games, but 30th in both SLG and OBP because more batted balls that are singles and doubles in other parks are outs in T-Mobile, for some reason.

Yeah still don't get it. If you hit a hard grounder or line drive between the 3rd baseman and 3rd base its a double in every park in baseball. I just don't get why they would hit dramatically less singles and doubles.

[Bil522]

I meant OPS+ but yes this season does seem to be an outlier. Perhaps his commitment to pulling everything and hitting homers has something to do with it.

Safeco is actually more friendly to left handed pull hitters than to righties. And he was pulling everything on the road too.

Yeah I don't get how it negatively impact anybody but RH HR hitters. Is it just a mental thing?

They never really pulled the RF fences in....that was more of a center and left deal

[D-train]

Safeco is actually more friendly to left handed pull hitters than to righties. And he was pulling everything on the road too.

Yeah I don't get how it negatively impact anybody but RH HR hitters. Is it just a mental thing?

They never really pulled the RF fences in....that was more of a center and left deal

I know, because they didn't need to yet it still is a pitchers park for all hitters. Weird.

[bpj]

Something I don't recall seeing often in our games was balls that look like gappers getting to the wall very often before an outfielder cut it off, limiting the batter to a single.

For those tired of hearing my hypothesis, stop reading here:

So, fewer doubles, equaling more singles from guys stopping at first.

But, on the flip side, you also have slow infield grass that on a two hopper slowed down enough for an infielder to get in front of it and throw you out.

I think it's at least 3 levels.

1- turf, balls skip through quickly - Toronto's offense is 2nd in MLB in HR's in Home and Away games, but 4th in Doubles at Home while being 18th in doubles in Away games. Our park plays the opposite end of that spectrum.
2- short or thin grass, slower than turf, but plays faster than ours
3- long/thick grass in T-Mobile that plays like molasses

[bpj]

What I'm saying is that taking groundballs is a lot different on grass than it is on turf.

And, it's a lot different taking grounders on an overgrown backfield where the ball dies and gets lost in the grass after 10 feet than on a regularly maintained field.

Ours is closer to that kind of grass than any other park imo, is what I'm getting at. Either thicker, or taller. Or, both.

[D-train]

What I'm saying is that taking groundballs is a lot different on grass than it is on turf.

And, it's a lot different taking grounders on an overgrown backfield where the ball dies and gets lost in the grass after 10 feet than on a regularly maintained field.

Ours is closer to that kind of grass than any other park imo, is what I'm getting at. Either thicker, or taller. Or, both.

Maybe. But that is just a massive difference.

Singles
H - 351
A - 433

Doubles
H - 100
A - 133

As you point out most defensive plays are routine and I would say that most singles and doubles are also clear cut. That's 23% more doubles and 23% more singles. I can't imagine grass being responsible for preventing that % of hits and extra bases but who knows. Seems fluky to me and I bet it corrects next season.

[Captain 97]

The thing is that it hasn't always been this way. The M's have had a higher OPS at home than on the road 3 times 2005, 2008, and 2016. and 4 times they were within 15 points of their road OPS at home, 2007, 2009,2013 and 2015. That's 7 times in a 12 year span that they performed pretty much as well at home as they did on the road. what has changed?

[D-train]

Maybe this explains it. Here is a ground level view of Seager playing 3B

https://www.etsy.com/listing/952537439/ ... 34QAvD_BwE