Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

Post by desbcoach » Sat Dec 17, 2022 3:10 am

bpj wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:32 pm
D-train wrote:
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bpj wrote:
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Listed as 5'9" and 180 pounds.

Carried by OBP and coming off the lowest SLG of his career. We need guys who can clear the bases, not just get on.

Glad we missed out on this one.
Totally agree he isn't exciting but he is Babe Ruth relative to JK.
He definitely is.

Problem is he's not even the best available option left this offseason, he certainly won't be the best we can get out there over the next 4 years, but we'd be stuck with him.

If we end up with Kelenic in LF, Dipoto should be fired anyways. He's not even the best option we have now.

I'm not convinced Haggerty/Trammell isn't better than Benintendi.
MLB had an article,that stated dodger,were,looking to trade for a CF and had talked with. Rainer’s about Kelenic
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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

Post by D-train » Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:36 am

bpj wrote:
Sat Dec 17, 2022 1:45 am
D-train wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:42 pm
bpj wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:32 pm


He definitely is.

Problem is he's not even the best available option left this offseason, he certainly won't be the best we can get out there over the next 4 years, but we'd be stuck with him.

If we end up with Kelenic in LF, Dipoto should be fired anyways. He's not even the best option we have now.

I'm not convinced Haggerty/Trammell isn't better than Benintendi.
Who is your LF RH choice right now?
Bryan Reynolds is the best available so if we can get him for pitching depth I'd be in.

Beyond that it's short term options. Wil Myers and Michael Brantley are the best guys that may come on one year deals.

Reynolds would fill the holes for 3 seasons, and he's actually good, so he's Option A.

I don't see any upgrades that would be worth committing to for more than a year- maybe two- when Trammell/Haggerty gave us a platoon of .775 vs RHP and 1.100 vs. LHP.

If one of them don't work out, that's when it would be time to bring Kelenic up and give him anothet shot.


At this point, imo, if it's not:

Reynolds
Brantley
Martinez
Myers

that we're adding on 1-2 year deals, then it's probably not worth doing.

There are probably some trades that we don't know are available.
That's close to what I have but I don't see Brantley because he is LF. Idiotic but is what it is.

Also I have Myers over JD because of age and the fact JD OPSed about .700 since June 1st and Myers OPSd .831 since he returned from injury on August 1st.
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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

Post by bpj » Sat Dec 17, 2022 7:30 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:36 am
bpj wrote:
Sat Dec 17, 2022 1:45 am
D-train wrote:
Fri Dec 16, 2022 10:42 pm


Who is your LF RH choice right now?
Bryan Reynolds is the best available so if we can get him for pitching depth I'd be in.

Beyond that it's short term options. Wil Myers and Michael Brantley are the best guys that may come on one year deals.

Reynolds would fill the holes for 3 seasons, and he's actually good, so he's Option A.

I don't see any upgrades that would be worth committing to for more than a year- maybe two- when Trammell/Haggerty gave us a platoon of .775 vs RHP and 1.100 vs. LHP.

If one of them don't work out, that's when it would be time to bring Kelenic up and give him anothet shot.


At this point, imo, if it's not:

Reynolds
Brantley
Martinez
Myers

that we're adding on 1-2 year deals, then it's probably not worth doing.

There are probably some trades that we don't know are available.
That's close to what I have but I don't see Brantley because he is LF. Idiotic but is what it is.

Also I have Myers over JD because of age and the fact JD OPSed about .700 since June 1st and Myers OPSd .831 since he returned from injury on August 1st.
Yeah, just meant only guys left on market worth signing still. Only options for LF that represent an upgrade are Myers and Conforto imo.

Martinez and Brantley are the two DH options that make sense.

Other than that, they're left with making trades or going in-house.

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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

Post by Big_Maple » Sat Dec 17, 2022 9:47 pm

Dansby Swanson is off the board. Seven years, $177M to the Cubs.

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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

Post by D-train » Sat Dec 17, 2022 10:17 pm

Big_Maple wrote:
Sat Dec 17, 2022 9:47 pm
Dansby Swanson is off the board. Seven years, $177M to the Cubs.

https://mobile.twitter.com/kileymcd/sta ... mxrsMsAAAA
I guess none of them wanted to play 2B. :lol:
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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

Post by Big_Maple » Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:44 pm

And….. JD Martinez is off the board. One year, $10M to the Dodgers.

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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

Post by bpj » Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:49 pm

Big_Maple wrote:
Sat Dec 17, 2022 11:44 pm
And….. JD Martinez is off the board. One year, $10M to the Dodgers.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JeffPassan/s ... 6YvcMsAAAA
That one stings since we're still two bats short of having enough bats deserving of a rotating DH.

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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

Post by Donn Beach » Sun Dec 18, 2022 1:47 am

D-train wrote:
Sat Dec 17, 2022 10:17 pm
Big_Maple wrote:
Sat Dec 17, 2022 9:47 pm
Dansby Swanson is off the board. Seven years, $177M to the Cubs.

https://mobile.twitter.com/kileymcd/sta ... mxrsMsAAAA
I guess none of them wanted to play 2B. :lol:
Nico Hoermer is gonna be,


Interesting
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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

Post by D-train » Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:44 pm

Here is what all the "smart" teams are left with:
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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

Post by D-train » Sun Dec 18, 2022 2:49 pm

Lux: 2.5 WAR 105 OPS
Farmer: 1.0 WAR 90 OPS
Grissom: 0.8 WAR 121 OPS
Story: 2.5 WAR 102 OPS
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