Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

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Post by ddraig » Sun Dec 18, 2022 7:27 pm

But we don't have enough money to sign any FA's! Don't you understand that? We're saving up for two years down the road when we'll pull out the same excuse and push the target out to 2027. Book it.

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Post by desbcoach » Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:23 pm

Brantley back to Houston for 12 million and 4 mill in Bonus

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Post by GL_Storm » Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:28 pm

desbcoach wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:23 pm
Brantley back to Houston for 12 million and 4 mill in Bonus
Yeah, Mariners were never going to shell out that kind of money.

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Post by D-train » Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:36 pm

So Kramer writes this entire article on Sadler and no mention of IF he will be ready at the start of the season.

https://www.mlb.com/mariners/news/casey ... h-mariners
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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

Post by D-train » Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:38 pm

GL_Storm wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:28 pm
desbcoach wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:23 pm
Brantley back to Houston for 12 million and 4 mill in Bonus
Yeah, Mariners were never going to shell out that kind of money.
Wong and Teo will earn $22.4M
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Post by GL_Storm » Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:50 pm

D-train wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:38 pm
GL_Storm wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:28 pm
desbcoach wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:23 pm
Brantley back to Houston for 12 million and 4 mill in Bonus
Yeah, Mariners were never going to shell out that kind of money.
Wong and Teo will earn $22.4M
So?

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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

Post by D-train » Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:53 pm

GL_Storm wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:50 pm
D-train wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:38 pm
GL_Storm wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:28 pm


Yeah, Mariners were never going to shell out that kind of money.
Wong and Teo will earn $22.4M
So?
Well they shelled out $22M and gave up four players in order to do it so $12M and no players doesn't seem like a lot relative to that. I guess they don't have to pay Winker or Swanson or Toro now....
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Post by GL_Storm » Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:18 pm

D-train wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:53 pm
GL_Storm wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:50 pm
D-train wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:38 pm


Wong and Teo will earn $22.4M
So?
Well they shelled out $22M and gave up four players in order to do it so $12M and no players doesn't seem like a lot relative to that. I guess they don't have to pay Winker or Swanson or Toro now....
You're making the assumption that the front office has the ability to make tradeoffs within their budget. I'm telling you that's not the case. The Mariners have never spent money on players like Brantley to fill holes in the roster and I don't think it's because Mariners GMs and their staffs don't understand roster construction and the value of proven bats on the bench, it's because the organization doesn't believe in spending any kind of significant money on middle-class free agent types, especially ones that aren't projected to start every game. Next one to go will probably be Wil Myers. Like I've said several times, I don't think Myers is awesome, but he would fill that platoon need that they've identified and could backup at 1B and DH as well. He wasn't worth what the Padres were paying him, but he's probably worth $10 million to someone. Do you think the Mariners would spend that kind of money on a player projected as a backup/part-time starter?

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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

Post by D-train » Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:25 pm

GL_Storm wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 10:18 pm
D-train wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:53 pm
GL_Storm wrote:
Sun Dec 18, 2022 9:50 pm


So?
Well they shelled out $22M and gave up four players in order to do it so $12M and no players doesn't seem like a lot relative to that. I guess they don't have to pay Winker or Swanson or Toro now....
You're making the assumption that the front office has the ability to make tradeoffs within their budget. I'm telling you that's not the case. The Mariners have never spent money on players like Brantley to fill holes in the roster and I don't think it's because Mariners GMs and their staffs don't understand roster construction and the value of proven bats on the bench, it's because the organization doesn't believe in spending any kind of significant money on middle-class free agent types, especially ones that aren't projected to start every game. Next one to go will probably be Wil Myers. Like I've said several times, I don't think Myers is awesome, but he would fill that platoon need that they've identified and could backup at 1B and DH as well. He wasn't worth what the Padres were paying him, but he's probably worth $10 million to someone. Do you think the Mariners would spend that kind of money on a player projected as a backup/part-time starter?
No I bet they sign a RH platoon bat for about $5M or trade for one making about that. btw Wong is expected to platoon with Moore.
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Re: Finally! Official Hot Stove League Thread

Post by Big_Maple » Sun Dec 18, 2022 11:04 pm

Not that many of us care, but Justin Turner to the BoSox for 2 years and $22M.

https://mobile.twitter.com/JeffPassan/s ... DA3MQsAAAA

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