Dingers only Game Thread: Singles need not apply. Woooooo

[Donn Beach]

The Mariners had a .572 OPS last season in their 167 pinch hitting appearances. Their entire approach is just retard-level.

167 plate appearances is like 1/4 of a full time players at bats they're just flushing down the drain.

That sounds like an argument for giving refsnyder $6 MIL

[bpj]

Then don't pinch hit for the DH, but I don't see why one should feel obligated to start a guy at DH when there's someone else available that gives you a better platoon advantage. Why are you so dead set against platoon advantages?

Because this is the result.

What result? Using Bliss? Don't use Bliss. Against a lefty start refsnyder, you have at least one guaranteed at bat with a platoon advantage, probably more. Then when they bring in a righty you go to Canzone. At worst it's where you would be if you started Canzone to begin with but you have avoided a couple of at bats at least where he didn't have the platoon advantage

Terms of the bench, it's what it's for isn't it? A late inning base stealing threat, a defensive replacement, a right handed bat. Refsnyder doesn't detract from the bench, in my mind he helps round it out. I just don't see the reason not to take advantage of platoon advantages

Because I wouldnt have that loser anywhere near my roster.

They planned to platoon. They planned to pinch hit.

I wouldn't have those problems because I wouldnt have weakass bats on the roster to begin with.

"Terms of bench": You've got (about half of) the idea, but if you're pinch hitting for the DH twice, like these idiots do in their model, you don't have pinch hitters or pinch runners left on the bench to use in those roles.

[bpj]

The Mariners had a .572 OPS last season in their 167 pinch hitting appearances. Their entire approach is just retard-level.

167 plate appearances is like 1/4 of a full time players at bats they're just flushing down the drain.

That sounds like an argument for giving refsnyder $6 MIL

Lol. He's the epitome of that approach.

We'll see at the end of the season.

I'll be surprised if he cracks a .700 OPS at any point in the season.

Another wasted $6M by Dipoto.

[Donn Beach]

The Mariners had a .572 OPS last season in their 167 pinch hitting appearances. Their entire approach is just retard-level.

167 plate appearances is like 1/4 of a full time players at bats they're just flushing down the drain.

That sounds like an argument for giving refsnyder $6 MIL

Though he didn't do very well in 16 attempts last season. In any event I'm just talking about platooning dh, leave pinch hitting for another day

[bpj]

The Mariners had a .572 OPS last season in their 167 pinch hitting appearances. Their entire approach is just retard-level.

167 plate appearances is like 1/4 of a full time players at bats they're just flushing down the drain.

That sounds like an argument for giving refsnyder $6 MIL

Though he didn't do very well in 16 attempts last season. In any event I'm just talking about platooning dh, leave pinch hitting for another day

That's the problem Donn.

You can't platoon DH without pinch hitting/using bench players.

It's the BINGO Free Space. And they're rejecting it and locking in N42.

The one position you absolutely shouldn't have to platoon because you can add the best bat available. And they did it intentionally.

And by game three of the season they've used Ryan Bliss for 40% of that games DH at bats. And, as would be expected, we lost.

[bpj]

The Mariners had a .572 OPS last season in their 167 pinch hitting appearances. Their entire approach is just retard-level.

167 plate appearances is like 1/4 of a full time players at bats they're just flushing down the drain.

That sounds like an argument for giving refsnyder $6 MIL

Though he didn't do very well in 16 attempts last season. In any event I'm just talking about platooning dh, leave pinch hitting for another day

Refsnyder 2025 pinch hitting:

.125 AVG
.488 OPS

Career:

.162 AVG
.581 OPS

There's just no getting around that what they did at DH is as low IQ as it gets.

We'll see bums like Bliss and Garver getting late inning at bats because they pull Refsnyder in the 5th or 6th with Canzone then Canzone's stuck facing late inning lefties so they pinch hit for him.

Nah, just ridiculous, stupid strategy.

[Donn Beach]

That sounds like an argument for giving refsnyder $6 MIL

Though he didn't do very well in 16 attempts last season. In any event I'm just talking about platooning dh, leave pinch hitting for another day

That's the problem Donn.

You can't platoon DH without pinch hitting/using bench players.

It's the BINGO Free Space. And they're rejecting it and locking in N42.

The one position you absolutely shouldn't have to platoon because you can add the best bat available. And they did it intentionally.

And by game three of the season they've used Ryan Bliss for 40% of that games DH at bats. And, as would be expected, we lost.

Of course you can platoon the dh without pinch hitting, those are two separate events. My point has been finding a guy that actually warrants giving a seasons worth of at bats to are few and far between these days. The fact is you are most likely going to be using multiple players at that position.

To me the position begs to lean on platoon advantages whenever possible because of that. There's no defensive aspect, all there is is that initial platoon advantage to try and take advantage of.

Yeah, if you have a Ohtani or schwarber great, or a switch hitter like Polanco. But other than that I'm building a DH.

[bpj]

Though he didn't do very well in 16 attempts last season. In any event I'm just talking about platooning dh, leave pinch hitting for another day

That's the problem Donn.

You can't platoon DH without pinch hitting/using bench players.

It's the BINGO Free Space. And they're rejecting it and locking in N42.

The one position you absolutely shouldn't have to platoon because you can add the best bat available. And they did it intentionally.

And by game three of the season they've used Ryan Bliss for 40% of that games DH at bats. And, as would be expected, we lost.

Of course you can platoon the dh without pinch hitting, those are two separate events. My point has been finding a guy that actually warrants giving a seasons worth of at bats to are few and far between these days. The fact is you are most likely going to be using multiple players at that position.

To me the position begs to lean on platoon advantages whenever possible because of that. There's no defensive aspect, all there is is that initial platoon advantage to try and take advantage of.

Yeah, if you have a Ohtani or schwarber great, or a switch hitter like Polanco. But other than that I'm building a DH.

It's dumb strategy, so that doesn't surprise me you love it.

Look what I said. You cant platoon DH without pinch hitting/using bench players.

When Refsnyder gets pulled, Canzone gets used off the bench whether it's as a pinch hitter or not. One option off the bench eliminated. Sorry defensive replacement. Sorry pinch run opportunity. Sorry, injury replacement.

Then, to top off their stupidity, they made RF another straight platoon, so there go two bench players, planned.

Any decent opposing manager can tear this lineup/bench to shreds by the sixth inning.

[Donn Beach]

I'm not talking about what they did, I certainly am not defending it. I said given the type of position the dh is currently and the talent to fill it I'm happy to build a dh out of pieces that give me a certain amount of platoon advantage. I don't see why not to.

Nothing to do with having to pinch hit someone, it has to do with the type of starting pitcher you are facing. Most teams like to have adjustments they can make when facing left handed pitching. The easiest place to do that in my mind is dh

[bpj]

I'm not talking about what they did, I certainly am not defending it. I said given the type of position the dh is currently and the talent to fill it I'm happy to build a dh out of pieces that give me a certain amount of platoon advantage. I don't see why not to.

Nothing to do with having to pinch hit someone, it has to do with the type of starting pitcher you are facing. Most teams like to have adjustments they can make when facing left handed pitching. The easiest place to do that in my mind is dh

If that was how they'd use it, it would be less of a problem than how they actually use it.

But they'd never have signed Refsnyder in that case because even they know that the other team will just bring in a righty to face him as soon as their starter gets tired. So of course they have to pinch hit for that bum.