Your Best Guess: What IS Jerry Going To Do?

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Re: Your Best Guess: What IS Jerry Going To Do?

Post by Hy Feiber » Wed Jul 31, 2024 3:13 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:36 pm
Big_Maple wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:16 pm
bpj wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:05 pm
Would be nice to get Soto, but I can't imagine him coming to Seattle after he's seen the kind of numbers he can put up in NY, for any amount of money. He can become a legend in that little league field.
On the one hand, Boras has said that $498MM would keep Soto in New York, and that would be good for their “brand” so it would be a good deal for them. If they structured it like Ohtani’s (the new template for huge contracts, I’m sure), then they could do it and avoid luxury tax.

Then again, Scott Boras is also a big fan of free agency, especially when he thinks he can get more on the open market than he can with a contract extension.

But to your point, there’s no way the Mariners would pay a half $1 billion for Juan Soto. Or for the ghost of Bane Ruth. Or for Jesus Christ himself.
He seems sort of fed up being a Yankee.

Grew pretty frustrated in an interview that it was just him and Judge as the talent.

They've also been gun shy with money of late.
Oh big deal, give the high priced whore a $Billion!

And fans can go crazy for “Our Guy!”

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Re: Your Best Guess: What IS Jerry Going To Do?

Post by Seattle or Bust » Wed Jul 31, 2024 3:34 pm

We can get all the "A's" we want but the trade deadline deals the M's did are fine if they hadn't royally fucked up the off season.

These are OK players, but not elite players. The M's needed an elite bat and failed.

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Re: Your Best Guess: What IS Jerry Going To Do?

Post by Captain 97 » Wed Jul 31, 2024 9:51 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Wed Jul 31, 2024 3:34 pm
We can get all the "A's" we want but the trade deadline deals the M's did are fine if they hadn't royally fucked up the off season.

These are OK players, but not elite players. The M's needed an elite bat and failed.
I mean I agree that they needed an elite bat but it takes two to tango. There weren't any elite bats traded so I am not sure how much of that can be put on Jerry.

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Re: Your Best Guess: What IS Jerry Going To Do?

Post by Pharmabro » Wed Jul 31, 2024 10:39 pm

Pharmabro wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:36 pm
Lamda wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 10:17 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
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Well, that was a bit of a letdown.
lol more than a 'bit' - while I applaud the Arozarena deal - its obvious we needed more. Not sure what TB was asking for in Diaz but seems like we should have made that deal as he was available, just the asking price was high. Not sure if Vlad was ever available but just adding on Turner ontop of a good move is not good enough. They sat down and put their feet in the pool instead of jumping in. Another bat would have made our lineup incredible if you could have had something like Robles/Arozarena/Julio/Vlad/Raleigh as your top 5. Now we hope that Robles can stay hot through to the end of the year as well as Arozarena or else we go nowhere.
Bell, DeJong, De La Cruz, Canha, Randy A., Isaac P., Winker, Soler, Lane Thomas, added Amed Rosario and IKF, Turner ?
Did I miss any notable moves of bats

The Paredes deal we did not have a CC young position player to match. We got 2 of the better bats and 2 BP parts
I think you could only argue that Randy and Isaac are the cream of the crop followed by Winker Soler Lane T, and then Turner, and then garbage (France DFA, Canha, Bell DFA, DeJong, De La Cruz, JD Davis DFA not trade still DFA limbo)

We got 2/7 above average bats and I think we got the best one.

I wish we could have got Isaac P., and one of the other good relievers like Tanner Scott.
Isaac P. is the only bat that got moved that I really coveted.
Amed Rosario or IKF might have made a slight improvement over the present combo of Moore-Rojas, (JP-out for a month +/-)Rivas, Polanco

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Re: Your Best Guess: What IS Jerry Going To Do?

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:43 am

So what role did the actual Mariners GM play in these trades? Or are Hollander's official duties just to attend photo ops and make trips to DR to inspect the team facility?

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Re: Your Best Guess: What IS Jerry Going To Do?

Post by Big_Maple » Thu Aug 01, 2024 4:45 am

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Thu Aug 01, 2024 2:43 am
So what role did the actual Mariners GM play in these trades? Or are Hollander's official duties just to attend photo ops and make trips to DR to inspect the team facility?
He cuts the checks.

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Re: Your Best Guess: What IS Jerry Going To Do?

Post by Donn Beach » Thu Aug 01, 2024 5:55 am

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:36 pm
Big_Maple wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:16 pm
bpj wrote:
Tue Jul 30, 2024 11:05 pm
Would be nice to get Soto, but I can't imagine him coming to Seattle after he's seen the kind of numbers he can put up in NY, for any amount of money. He can become a legend in that little league field.
On the one hand, Boras has said that $498MM would keep Soto in New York, and that would be good for their “brand” so it would be a good deal for them. If they structured it like Ohtani’s (the new template for huge contracts, I’m sure), then they could do it and avoid luxury tax.

Then again, Scott Boras is also a big fan of free agency, especially when he thinks he can get more on the open market than he can with a contract extension.

But to your point, there’s no way the Mariners would pay a half $1 billion for Juan Soto. Or for the ghost of Bane Ruth. Or for Jesus Christ himself.
He seems sort of fed up being a Yankee.

Grew pretty frustrated in an interview that it was just him and Judge as the talent.

They've also been gun shy with money of late.
They wouldn't have traded for him if they weren't intent on resigning him. They will be in it even if he goes to FA

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Re: Your Best Guess: What IS Jerry Going To Do?

Post by Pharmabro » Thu Aug 01, 2024 5:58 am

And what about Troy Taylor?

He has a 1.35 ERA in AA Arkansas. 0.79 WHIP .133 average against.

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Re: Your Best Guess: What IS Jerry Going To Do?

Post by Big_Maple » Fri Aug 02, 2024 3:47 am

So Trout is out again - for the rest of the season.

https://archive.ph/XteRb

Riddle me this, my friends: could we swing a trade for Trout?

Hear me out; the Angels are going nowhere, fast. They are further away from a contending season than the A’s are. They have one of the best players in baseball locked up until 2031. When he’s healthy, he’s still one of the best hitters out there. Surely the Angels would be compelled to move him, and Trout would embrace a team that has a shot at the big dance.

The risk, of course, is that (a) he’s been as fragile as a China teacup, and (b) he’s peaked and is on the wrong side of 30. But if we got him after he recovered from his meniscus tear, he could be a useful bat as a DH. The Angels should be compelled to eat some of his contract.

He’s a sure bet Hall of Famer. He is a stud at the plate even in his 30’s. He’s competitive as hell and surely has some gas left in the tank. So my questions are whether the Halos would trade him and whether he’d be worth the cost at any price.

Whaddya think?

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Re: Your Best Guess: What IS Jerry Going To Do?

Post by Donn Beach » Fri Aug 02, 2024 4:03 am

I don't think Trout would embrace it, so far Trout hasn't shown an inclination to leave LA. And if he did decide he wanted to it wouldn't be Seattle, it be the east coast. Phillies being the dream fit but even that seems pretty doubt.
While it has always been wishful thinking and a long shot at best, the dream of seeing Mike Trout in a Philadelphia Phillies uniform is finally dead, at least according to one MLB insider. Trout never wanted to leave the Los Angeles Angels; his recent knee injury and surgery may have ultimately secured that fate.

Ken Rosenthal of The Athletic recently laid out the case for why Trout will be stuck in Anaheim forever (subscription required). He even mentions the Phillies as a fit for the generational talent, if he were to change course and leverage his way to a new team.

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