Jerry sets the stage for not doing shit

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Re: Jerry sets the stage for not doing shit

Post by Donn Beach » Sat Jul 19, 2025 5:30 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sat Jul 19, 2025 5:24 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Sat Jul 19, 2025 5:10 pm
a David Bell?
So we have to wait until he's 28 for his bat to be near league average?
could be, Ben is putting up better numbers than David at 24

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Re: Jerry sets the stage for not doing shit

Post by Pharmabro » Sat Jul 19, 2025 6:28 pm

Vogelbomb wrote:
Sat Jul 19, 2025 4:01 am
How is it 54 percent in action?

Is he not wrong about the lineup being extremely well rounded right now? And what do you expect him to say? He's hyping up the rookie 3b, he's not going to come out and say "yeah, we really need to get better at 3b because Williamson is just not good enough"

Actions speak loudest. They are targeting 1b and 3b. That is everywhere. So stop criticizing his interviews and wait and see what happens.

I'd like to see them add a starter on a rental or 2026 FA. I think miller is cooked and we clearly need someone besides Evans. The offense looks legit. I'm not going to be mad if Geno comes back with little parted with (Morales or Peete and a few 20-30s tossed in?).
Wow, agreed.

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Re: Jerry sets the stage for not doing shit

Post by Michael K. » Sat Jul 19, 2025 6:37 pm

Vogelbomb wrote:
Sat Jul 19, 2025 4:09 am
Also, if they close out Woo's brilliant outing vs NYY, they don't give up 2 runs on JPs error in Woo's start vs TEX, they get a proper strike 3 call in that 1st gm at San Fran and find a timely hit in either the recent KC game that was a 3-2 loss or in that 2-1 loss vs HOU back in APR, that's an easy 4 Ws that should've been and the record is 55-41 and 57.3 percent
If, if, if. If they had added talent in the off season? If they ever did shit to make themselves better. If they cared as much about winning and profit. I can play the if game too.

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Re: Jerry sets the stage for not doing shit

Post by Michael K. » Sat Jul 19, 2025 6:40 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Jul 19, 2025 4:54 pm
Vogelbomb wrote:
Sat Jul 19, 2025 4:09 am
Also, if they close out Woo's brilliant outing vs NYY, they don't give up 2 runs on JPs error in Woo's start vs TEX, they get a proper strike 3 call in that 1st gm at San Fran and find a timely hit in either the recent KC game that was a 3-2 loss or in that 2-1 loss vs HOU back in APR, that's an easy 4 Ws that should've been and the record is 55-41 and 57.3 percent
IF

https://x.com/JaneyMackWriter/status/15 ... 1326929920

I am sure we can find four games we should have lost that we won as well.

That's baseball as they same.
Haha, if my aunt had balls she’d be my uncle. Excusing them doing nothing because we coulda woulda shoulda won more? Weak shit, and exactly the reason there is NEVER any heat on these fuckers to win. We should be thanking the front office is what we should be doing. Five playoff games in two and a half decades, and we should be thanking them because IF a few games went differently we’d have been better. Holy shit.

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Re: Jerry sets the stage for not doing shit

Post by Pharmabro » Sat Jul 19, 2025 6:58 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Jul 19, 2025 4:49 pm
At least 4 teams interested in Geno. You are not getting him for freaking Tai Peete or Morales and a couple of scrubs..

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/seattle-mariners
But you are not sending a Soto package are you? Pete is a 1st round pick. He is a top 100 adjacent type of prospect. If they packed up a couple of more top 30 prospects that is an overpay. Geno is a rental. Geno is being paid at a pro-rate of 12M. Geno is having the best season of his career. But there is a history of players being traded on rental contracts wilting in the wind post trade.

Adam Frazier
126 OPS+ in Pit > 86 OPS+ in SD

Josh Bell
DC 152 OPS+> SD 73 OPS+ and -0.5 WAR

Even Soto
DC 158 OPS+ Padres 127 OPS+

I am pro trade for Geno, but pretending that he is going to grab a premium package that I would offer for an underpaid controlled player like Skenes, CJ Abrams, etc. is over the moon ridiculous. Nothing in the top 6.

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Re: Jerry sets the stage for not doing shit

Post by Pharmabro » Sat Jul 19, 2025 7:19 pm

D-train wrote:
Sat Jul 19, 2025 5:02 pm
Vogelbomb wrote:
Sat Jul 19, 2025 2:24 pm
Lamda wrote:
Sat Jul 19, 2025 5:36 am


lol - that happens only if Dip allows himself to be bent over. If the AZ GM is smart - he takes the next 12-13 days to pit us/skanks/anyone who needs a 3B against each other to get the best package he can for him. It's not as though its a fire sale and whomever suggests a decent deal will get it done in the next day or so.

Geno is a good add but if this team wants to win they need more than that.
More? This team has 4 All-Stars. It's coming off a month in which it delivered the best offensive production in all of baseball and now the pitching is rounding into form. It's nice to be greedy but it's also a sin. I wouldn't complain about a Geno add on a cheap offer, or an SP add for a reasonable price, but I'd also be more than fine with standing pat. This team is hitting its stride and you don't need to mess with it. Plenty of reinforcements in the minors with Rivas, Taylor, Lao, Kowar and Locklear. Plus Robles nearing his return in about 5 weeks
Geno is obviously a rental but you are not getting a top 10 hitter on a cheap offer when at least 3 other teams are desperate for a 3B. At a minimum you need to offer more than what the D Backs would get as compensation of a QO.

What is that? I saw teams with comp picks what is Geno?

There were 3 1st rounders that were lost due to spending. So at the end of the 1st round you had the picks for guys like Santander , Walker, Adames, and Burnes, all right around #30 pick. To me, that is a Tai Pete headliner.

I don't know what the competition angle could do. SD did some overpays recently because their owner was on deaths doorstep. The Redsox called back on Heathcliff Slocumb and said either Lowe or Varitek and Seattle sent both :roll:

We'll see

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Re: Jerry sets the stage for not doing shit

Post by Pharmabro » Sat Jul 19, 2025 7:21 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Sat Jul 19, 2025 5:21 pm
D-train wrote:
Sat Jul 19, 2025 5:02 pm
Vogelbomb wrote:
Sat Jul 19, 2025 2:24 pm


More? This team has 4 All-Stars. It's coming off a month in which it delivered the best offensive production in all of baseball and now the pitching is rounding into form. It's nice to be greedy but it's also a sin. I wouldn't complain about a Geno add on a cheap offer, or an SP add for a reasonable price, but I'd also be more than fine with standing pat. This team is hitting its stride and you don't need to mess with it. Plenty of reinforcements in the minors with Rivas, Taylor, Lao, Kowar and Locklear. Plus Robles nearing his return in about 5 weeks
Geno is obviously a rental but you are not getting a top 10 hitter on a cheap offer when at least 3 other teams are desperate for a 3B. At a minimum you need to offer more than what the D Backs would get as compensation of a QO.
I saw a Hancock, Locklear, Peete offer today. That's similar to what I was going to offer in a next plan.

I think that's pretty good comp. Gives them a no. 5, a former top 100 1B who is having a good year to replace Naylor, and a wildcard athlete in Peete. Both Peete and Locklear are 10-15 prospects in a good M's system.
Reasonable

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Re: Jerry sets the stage for not doing shit

Post by ddraig » Sat Jul 19, 2025 8:58 pm

D-train wrote:
Fri Jul 18, 2025 9:01 pm
Maybe he is bluffing but this is the 54% philosophy in action.

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The M's are sitting at 53.6% right now. 54% won't be enough to make the playoffs unless it's in the 3rd also ran spot. And even if they get into the playoffs, they won't come out of the first round as winners.

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Re: Jerry sets the stage for not doing shit

Post by D-train » Sat Jul 19, 2025 9:22 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Sat Jul 19, 2025 4:26 pm
AlvinDavisFan21 wrote:
Sat Jul 19, 2025 4:11 pm
I loved seeing Robles on the field playing catch yesterday. According to what Jen Mueller reported he is about 75%. Seems like that certainly gets him back before September, but what do I know.
As I understand it, the shoulder is healed, the situation now is building strength and conditioning but they haven't at this point moved up his anticipated return, they are sticking with September at least to the public
He was bad before last season and currently has negative WAR. I am guessing he doesn't add much. Maybe a platoon partner with Canzone.
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Re: Jerry sets the stage for not doing shit

Post by D-train » Sat Jul 19, 2025 9:25 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Sat Jul 19, 2025 6:37 pm
Vogelbomb wrote:
Sat Jul 19, 2025 4:09 am
Also, if they close out Woo's brilliant outing vs NYY, they don't give up 2 runs on JPs error in Woo's start vs TEX, they get a proper strike 3 call in that 1st gm at San Fran and find a timely hit in either the recent KC game that was a 3-2 loss or in that 2-1 loss vs HOU back in APR, that's an easy 4 Ws that should've been and the record is 55-41 and 57.3 percent
If, if, if. If they had added talent in the off season? If they ever did shit to make themselves better. If they cared as much about winning and profit. I can play the if game too.
Come man I was hoping for you IF my aunt had balls she would be my uncle line. I am highly disappointed! lol
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