There ya go!D-train wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 11:19 pmI can understand his discomfort. Imagine if you or I had to move to the left.bpj wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 9:49 pmThat's exactly what I think about Santana. He's a RF becoming a LF. They say he can play CF.. whatever, but I do think we've seen the bottom defensively on all of these guys really.D-train wrote: ↑Fri May 24, 2019 8:22 pm
The absolutely bizarre thing is that while he was never great defensively, this year is a major horrid aberration so I would definitely agree regarding hanging on to him during this difficult time.
UZR 150
2017 -5.7
2018 +10
2019 -33.6
I wonder if it has occurred to the idiots that he is more comfortable in RF and that they should move him back their especially when Mitch is in CF.![]()
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It seems to me the Mariners already blinked on the rebuild. Divish did a great article on the discussions after last season between JD, SS, Stanton and Larson. First off it showed where the decisions are made with this ownership group; Stanton and Larson. Period.
So it went from rebuild to "step back" because they chickened out. The plan now is to be a contender in 2021. This club needs a change in culture not a change (barely) in strategy. They are still building around a core, but it's a core made up of players who may or may not be MLB caliber. At the end of the day they fear decreased attendance more than they want a competitive club. If they BS enough fans into believing they are or will soon be a contender then that will just have to do.
So it went from rebuild to "step back" because they chickened out. The plan now is to be a contender in 2021. This club needs a change in culture not a change (barely) in strategy. They are still building around a core, but it's a core made up of players who may or may not be MLB caliber. At the end of the day they fear decreased attendance more than they want a competitive club. If they BS enough fans into believing they are or will soon be a contender then that will just have to do.
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Last year we had a team a couple of games away from playoffs. This year we’ve got a disorganized mess on every front. This isn’t a step back, it is an unmitigated disaster. And to anyone who buys into the 2021 nonsense, I’ve got some great swampland in Florida to sell you.
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I mean the first part alone is wrong, we were 7 games back. The rest is just wrong too, there is no point scraping in to a 1 game playoff when the team isn't good enough to compete with anyone outside of Oakland
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8 actually. My bad.
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This team isn't going to be competitive until ownership changes
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They have been absurdly saying they expect to compete mid 2020. Do they expect attendance to go up 50% next July even though they are 15 games out of first because they are now ready to compete. More inane marketing I suspect. Don't want to piss off a fan base that has waited almost 20 years for playoffs because they have to wait another half season.Freespeech wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 4:54 pmIt seems to me the Mariners already blinked on the rebuild. Divish did a great article on the discussions after last season between JD, SS, Stanton and Larson. First off it showed where the decisions are made with this ownership group; Stanton and Larson. Period.
So it went from rebuild to "step back" because they chickened out. The plan now is to be a contender in 2021. This club needs a change in culture not a change (barely) in strategy. They are still building around a core, but it's a core made up of players who may or may not be MLB caliber. At the end of the day they fear decreased attendance more than they want a competitive club. If they BS enough fans into believing they are or will soon be a contender then that will just have to do.
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At least you are being honest about the land being a swamp. They are more the oceanfront property in Oklahoma types.Happy as hell wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 5:10 pmLast year we had a team a couple of games away from playoffs. This year we’ve got a disorganized mess on every front. This isn’t a step back, it is an unmitigated disaster. And to anyone who buys into the 2021 nonsense, I’ve got some great swampland in Florida to sell you.
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I was hopeful it would when Stanton took over for Nintendo. I think he might either be worse or had been calling the shots for well over a decade.Logainismyhero wrote: ↑Sat May 25, 2019 11:54 pmThis team isn't going to be competitive until ownership changes
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