This is One Awful Contract—Miguel Cabrera.

[Wishhiker]

Pujols is doing so poorly he actually drug his average under .300 yesterday for the first time since his 4th MLB game. $29 million next year, $30 million in '21.

Prince Fielder was also signed through '21 but released by the Rangers when he was owed $72 million still in October of '17.

Also signed through '21, also hasn't played since '17 Jacoby Ellsbury who some jokers were suggesting the Mariners should trade Seager for (if not Will Myers). Over $84mm left when his holiday of sorts began but he'd been bad his 2nd 3rd and 4th year in NY already.

Barry Zito turned into a pumpkin the day he put on the orange and black jersey.

[D-train]

Maybe they can sing like Utah Jones......

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[BaseHitDerby]

Another bad thing about this awful contract is that he still had 2 years left on it when they extended him. There was no need to extend him at the time. Dombrowski is like the king of giving awful contracts (Cabrera, Zimmerman, Price, Sale, Pearce, Eovaldi).

[Hy Feiber]

Pujols is doing so poorly he actually drug his average under .300 yesterday for the first time since his 4th MLB game. $29 million next year, $30 million in '21.

Prince Fielder was also signed through '21 but released by the Rangers when he was owed $72 million still in October of '17.

Also signed through '21, also hasn't played since '17 Jacoby Ellsbury who some jokers were suggesting the Mariners should trade Seager for (if not Will Myers). Over $84mm left when his holiday of sorts began but he'd been bad his 2nd 3rd and 4th year in NY already.

Barry Zito turned into a pumpkin the day he put on the orange and black jersey.

Pujols at 32 gets a 10 year deal, one of The Worst deals around, barely hits .250 each year.

Eight consistently subpar years.

[Wishhiker]

Pujols is doing so poorly he actually drug his average under .300 yesterday for the first time since his 4th MLB game. $29 million next year, $30 million in '21.

Prince Fielder was also signed through '21 but released by the Rangers when he was owed $72 million still in October of '17.

Also signed through '21, also hasn't played since '17 Jacoby Ellsbury who some jokers were suggesting the Mariners should trade Seager for (if not Will Myers). Over $84mm left when his holiday of sorts began but he'd been bad his 2nd 3rd and 4th year in NY already.

Barry Zito turned into a pumpkin the day he put on the orange and black jersey.

Pujols at 32 gets a 10 year deal, one of The Worst deals around, barely hits .250 each year.

Eight consistently subpar years.

Zito's immediate faceplant moving across town to the league where you pitch to pitchers too takes the cake for me.

[bpj]

Ichiro in RF for about 5 years too long at 20% of his teams payroll is just as bad.

[Wishhiker]

Ichiro in RF for about 5 years too long at 20% of his teams payroll is just as bad.

2012 was the year the M's moved him. It was his last year clearing even 140 hits (178) and he made $17.5mm in the last year of his deal. 2013 he made $6.5 million on the first year of his new deal with the Yankees, that was much closer to 2% of their payroll than 20% (8.58% in 2012, his $17mm vs Yankees $197mm/ 2.83% in 2013 his $6.5mm vs. Yankees $228mm payroll). Skipping the rest of the Yankees career, the Marlins paid him $3.2mm in 2015 and less and less until retirement. During his big contract ages 34-38 of 2008-12 he earned $88 million and 16.1 WAR. A couple of those years he was around 20% of the M's payroll but earned it. I don't think he belongs in the conversation of overpriced. We could start a new HoF thread for talking about him though. He performed between well and godlike through to the age of 38 aside from a down 2011 and even had a useful year as old as 42.

[bpj]

Godlike if he wasnt playing out of position by that point. His OPS early in his career, sure, let him have RF. Later, no chance.

Those numbers in CF or SS or 2B would have been fantastic.

But, blocking a power position while getting paid among the elite did nothing to help us win, WAR-be-damned. Robbing Peter to pay Paul.

You're absolutely right, he doesnt belong in this discussion at all. He was just my least favorite extension because he was a light hitting player taking up a power position and the biggest chunk of the teams payroll while they sucked. Talk about opportunity cost, how many years did we go with one fewer power hitter in our lineup than other teams because Ichiro was in RF (and getting paid the 20% that would normally pay your cleanup hitter).

[Wishhiker]

Godlike if he wasnt playing out of position by that point. His OPS early in his career, sure, let him have RF. Later, no chance.

Those numbers in CF or SS or 2B would have been fantastic.

But, blocking a power position while getting paid among the elite did nothing to help us win, WAR-be-damned. Robbing Peter to pay Paul.

You're absolutely right, he doesnt belong in this discussion at all. He was just my least favorite extension because he was a light hitting player taking up a power position and the biggest chunk of the teams payroll while they sucked. Talk about opportunity cost, how many years did we go with one fewer power hitter in our lineup than other teams because Ichiro was in RF (and getting paid the 20% that would normally pay your cleanup hitter).

The light hitting take is way overstated. From 27 through 36 he had 1588 Games of .331/.376/.430 .806. That's not light hitting. Averaging 158.8 G, 27 dbl, 8 tpl, 10HR, 40 SB/9CS, 47BB/70K during that 10 year stretch. That consistency is unreal and he was always on the field. If that's not enough your standards are too high.

[bpj]

Godlike if he wasnt playing out of position by that point. His OPS early in his career, sure, let him have RF. Later, no chance.

Those numbers in CF or SS or 2B would have been fantastic.

But, blocking a power position while getting paid among the elite did nothing to help us win, WAR-be-damned. Robbing Peter to pay Paul.

You're absolutely right, he doesnt belong in this discussion at all. He was just my least favorite extension because he was a light hitting player taking up a power position and the biggest chunk of the teams payroll while they sucked. Talk about opportunity cost, how many years did we go with one fewer power hitter in our lineup than other teams because Ichiro was in RF (and getting paid the 20% that would normally pay your cleanup hitter).

The light hitting take is way overstated. From 27 through 36 he had 1588 Games of .331/.376/.430 .806. That's not light hitting. Averaging 158.8 G, 27 dbl, 8 tpl, 10HR, 40 SB/9CS, 47BB/70K during that 10 year stretch. That consistency is unreal and he was always on the field. If that's not enough your standards are too high.

Not at $18 million bucks per year they're not.