Offseason Plans

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Re: Offseason Plans

Post by D-train » Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:58 pm

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Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:50 pm
I sorta doubt the A's would trade Matt Olson now. He's going to make somewhere around $11 million next year which they can totally afford and he's under team control for another year after that. They have to believe 2022 is likely the last year they have to seriously contend and they're going to go for it before selling it all off in 2023.
Yeah I think the Indians would be for more likely to trade JRam and then we don't need to move guys around. Everyone plays their natural position.
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Re: Offseason Plans

Post by SeattleSportsRUs » Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:10 pm

D-train wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:57 pm
Trade JK and Hancock and Toro for JRam, Sign Semien, Sign Schwarber, Sign Gausman, teach Torrens how to catch.

Semien 2B
France 1B
JRam 3B
Haniger DH/RF
Schwarber LF/DH
JRod RF
Lewis CF
Torrens/Cal C
Crawford SS

Bench
Walton
Fraley

Gausman
Gilbert
Marco
Flexen
Brash

Sadler
Steck
Sewald
Ramirez
Giles
Munoz
Swanson
Mis
Castillo
You know the M's aren't trading Kelenic :lol: . Not after he hung a .854 OPS in September. And he did that with still just a .275 BABIP - for reference Ty France only had a BABIP under .286 one month this season. When Kelenic gets his BABIP around .300 he's going to be nuts.

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Re: Offseason Plans

Post by D-train » Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:13 pm

Yep, that's what I would do not what I think they will do. I don't think they make any "major" moves this offseason which involve top 10 prospects or signing guys to $20M+ AAV contracts. Stay the conservative course is JDs mindset imo.
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Re: Offseason Plans

Post by Captain 97 » Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:13 pm

SeattleSportsRUs wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:50 pm
I sorta doubt the A's would trade Matt Olson now. He's going to make somewhere around $11 million next year which they can totally afford and he's under team control for another year after that. They have to believe 2022 is likely the last year they have to seriously contend and they're going to go for it before selling it all off in 2023.
The A's went for it this year. They picked up players at the deadline because they knew this was going to be their best shot.
They are losing Marte, Canha, Gomes, Petit, Romo, Lowrie, Moreland, Harrison, Fiers and Davis to Free agency. They have no ability to replace those guys in free agency because the guys that they have left are getting expensive. Olson, Chapman, Manaea, Bassitt, Laureano, Montas, Trivino, Pinder, Kemp, and Guerra are all in arbitration and they are predicted to get around 60 Million combined for the coming season. Add that to the 25 Million that they owe to Andrus, Piscotty and Diekman and the payroll will be about the same as it was this year before they even look at replacing those free agent losses. I don't think there is any way they compete in the next couple of years and they know it. I think they will blow it all up and do another of their rebuilds.

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Re: Offseason Plans

Post by D-train » Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:14 pm

SeattleSportsRUs wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:10 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:57 pm
Trade JK and Hancock and Toro for JRam, Sign Semien, Sign Schwarber, Sign Gausman, teach Torrens how to catch.

Semien 2B
France 1B
JRam 3B
Haniger DH/RF
Schwarber LF/DH
JRod RF
Lewis CF
Torrens/Cal C
Crawford SS

Bench
Walton
Fraley

Gausman
Gilbert
Marco
Flexen
Brash

Sadler
Steck
Sewald
Ramirez
Giles
Munoz
Swanson
Mis
Castillo
You know the M's aren't trading Kelenic :lol: . Not after he hung a .854 OPS in September. And he did that with still just a .275 BABIP - for reference Ty France only had a BABIP under .286 one month this season. When Kelenic gets his BABIP around .300 he's going to be nuts.
But you can exchange JK with Marte if you want it to be more realistic.
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Re: Offseason Plans

Post by D-train » Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:16 pm

btw JK finished the last two weeks of the season hitting .200/.308/.356/.663 Yay?
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Re: Offseason Plans

Post by Captain 97 » Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:17 pm

SeattleSportsRUs wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:10 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:57 pm
Trade JK and Hancock and Toro for JRam, Sign Semien, Sign Schwarber, Sign Gausman, teach Torrens how to catch.

Semien 2B
France 1B
JRam 3B
Haniger DH/RF
Schwarber LF/DH
JRod RF
Lewis CF
Torrens/Cal C
Crawford SS

Bench
Walton
Fraley

Gausman
Gilbert
Marco
Flexen
Brash

Sadler
Steck
Sewald
Ramirez
Giles
Munoz
Swanson
Mis
Castillo
You know the M's aren't trading Kelenic :lol: . Not after he hung a .854 OPS in September. And he did that with still just a .275 BABIP - for reference Ty France only had a BABIP under .286 one month this season. When Kelenic gets his BABIP around .300 he's going to be nuts.
BABIP is a useless stat. guys have low BABIPS because they suck not because they are unlucky. when you hit a bunch of weak ground balls and lazy flyballs like Kelenic does your BABIP is going to be low. When you hit line drives like France does your BABIP will be good.

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Re: Offseason Plans

Post by D-train » Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:20 pm

Yeah I don't recall JK hitting all these line drives right at guys. I think people want him to succeed so badly they will come up with anything to confirm he isn't going to be a bust.
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Re: Offseason Plans

Post by Captain 97 » Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:32 pm

D-train wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:14 pm
SeattleSportsRUs wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:10 pm
D-train wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:57 pm
Trade JK and Hancock and Toro for JRam, Sign Semien, Sign Schwarber, Sign Gausman, teach Torrens how to catch.

Semien 2B
France 1B
JRam 3B
Haniger DH/RF
Schwarber LF/DH
JRod RF
Lewis CF
Torrens/Cal C
Crawford SS

Bench
Walton
Fraley

Gausman
Gilbert
Marco
Flexen
Brash

Sadler
Steck
Sewald
Ramirez
Giles
Munoz
Swanson
Mis
Castillo
You know the M's aren't trading Kelenic :lol: . Not after he hung a .854 OPS in September. And he did that with still just a .275 BABIP - for reference Ty France only had a BABIP under .286 one month this season. When Kelenic gets his BABIP around .300 he's going to be nuts.
But you can exchange JK with Marte if you want it to be more realistic.
There is no way that Marte, Hancock and Toro brings back Ramirez. Your talking about a guy with an .825 OPS in A ball, A pitcher who threw about 10 innings before he had to be shut down with arm issues and a poor fielding infielder with a .657 career OPS over 3 partial seasons in the Bigs. Any conversation that doesn't involve J-Rod will get you no where in a Ramirez trade.

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Re: Offseason Plans

Post by SeattleSportsRUs » Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:35 pm

Captain 97 wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 5:13 pm
SeattleSportsRUs wrote:
Mon Oct 04, 2021 4:50 pm
I sorta doubt the A's would trade Matt Olson now. He's going to make somewhere around $11 million next year which they can totally afford and he's under team control for another year after that. They have to believe 2022 is likely the last year they have to seriously contend and they're going to go for it before selling it all off in 2023.
The A's went for it this year. They picked up players at the deadline because they knew this was going to be their best shot.
They are losing Marte, Canha, Gomes, Petit, Romo, Lowrie, Moreland, Harrison, Fiers and Davis to Free agency. They have no ability to replace those guys in free agency because the guys that they have left are getting expensive. Olson, Chapman, Manaea, Bassitt, Laureano, Montas, Trivino, Pinder, Kemp, and Guerra are all in arbitration and they are predicted to get around 60 Million combined for the coming season. Add that to the 25 Million that they owe to Andrus, Piscotty and Diekman and the payroll will be about the same as it was this year before they even look at replacing those free agent losses. I don't think there is any way they compete in the next couple of years and they know it. I think they will blow it all up and do another of their rebuilds.
The A's were arguably just as good a team if not better before they traded for Marte, Harrison and Gomes. They had a lot of injuries that hamstringed them going into their playoff run. Moreland had a .701 OPS, Gomes .631, Lowrie .717 and Davis was a late addition after the Rangers dropped him. Sergio Romo is 400 years old, Petit throws 90 MPH. Fiers pitched 2 games for them in 2021 with an ERA above 7 and he was a dumpster dive addition when they grabbed him.

Olson, Chapman, Manaea, Bassitt, Laureano, Montas, Trivino, Pinder, Kemp, and Guerra is still a great, young core and the A's will dumpster dive yet again to compete. There's no reason to think they wont - they always land guys who nobody wants who then turn around and overperform.
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