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Well that part of the Polanco trade worked out well....DeSclafani done for the year
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Insane. Like the majority of pitchers involved in M's off season trades are having or had recent TJ surgery.....Bil522 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:52 amWell that part of the Polanco trade worked out well....DeSclafani done for the year
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JK had a great day yesterday and is now 4-6 with a walk. No x base hits yet.D-train wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 4:01 pmJK was rained out.Sibelius Hindemith wrote: ↑Fri Mar 29, 2024 3:53 pmHere is a list to get things started. Please feel free to add to it.
Jared Kelenic
Eugenio Suarez
Teoscar Hernandez
Robbie Ray
Mike Ford
Tom Murphy
Kolten Wong
Jose Caballero
Taylor Trammell
Marco Gonzalez
Isaiah Campbell
Paul Sewald
Geno was 2-4 with one K and a good defensive play
Teoscar Hernandez .167/.536
Robbie Ray Out until August
Mike Ford jobless
Tom Murphy Hasn't played yet
Kolten Wong jobless
Jose Caballero 1-4 yesterday a single
Taylor Trammell DFA limbo
Marco Gonzalez will likely get his first start next week
Isaiah Campbell saw him last night
Paul Sewald injured
Geno is 6-11 with a HR and 4 RBIs Just a heinous trade so far
Teoscar Hernandez .200/.823 11Kd in 22 PAs
Robbie Ray Out until August
Mike Ford resigned with the Reds on a minor league deal. 0-4 in his first game.
Tom Murphy 1-3 with a BB and a 2B
Kolten Wong jobless
Jose Caballero 4-10 with .917 OPS
Taylor Trammell DFA limbo
Marco Gonzalez will likely get his first start Monday
Isaiah Campbell 2 IPs 1 hit and no walks. We sure could use him about now instead of Urias
Paul Sewald injured
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Should be interesting comparing the production at 3rd, 2nd, RF and LF/DH this year...
Geno vs Rojas/Urias
Caballero vs Polanco
Kelenic/Ford vs Garver/Raley
Teo vs Haniger
I'm not sure what the BP comparison would be
Sewald/Campbell/? vs Stanek/Voth/?
Geno vs Rojas/Urias
Caballero vs Polanco
Kelenic/Ford vs Garver/Raley
Teo vs Haniger
I'm not sure what the BP comparison would be
Sewald/Campbell/? vs Stanek/Voth/?
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Seby vs. Murphy to save a few million was one of the worst.
Also should have just kept Mike Ford and signed Chapman instead who is hitting .357 with a 1.214 OPS with great D is another choice that should be monitored. Passed on the Gimp Garver.
Also should have just kept Mike Ford and signed Chapman instead who is hitting .357 with a 1.214 OPS with great D is another choice that should be monitored. Passed on the Gimp Garver.
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What would we do without pitch counts?D-train wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:43 amInsane. Like the majority of pitchers involved in M's off season trades are having or had recent TJ surgery.....Bil522 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:52 amWell that part of the Polanco trade worked out well....DeSclafani done for the year
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They would need to build a huge factory to do TJ surgeries....thousands of pitchers a day rolling through on conveyor belts...Hy Feiber wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 10:59 pmWhat would we do without pitch counts?D-train wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 11:43 amInsane. Like the majority of pitchers involved in M's off season trades are having or had recent TJ surgery.....Bil522 wrote: ↑Sun Mar 31, 2024 5:52 amWell that part of the Polanco trade worked out well....DeSclafani done for the year
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You’d think somebody in charge would say, uh guys, are we doing something wrong with the way we handle our pitching staffs?
Think of all the $$millions in salary squandered for these guys to go on the shelf for upwards of two years.
Even if the team finally gets the guy they want, it’s a crapshoot how long he’s going to last!
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Best post you've made ever!!!!
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Somethings definitely wrong with the mindset our coaches and managers instill to anyone who comes here. It always is blamed on the stadium, but it's almost certainly more a mindset and ideological problem IMO.
I personally think they make the guys think too much. I've taught English in HS in the USA and all levels in Japan, and the best thing every damn education system tells teachers(but then sadly always ignores) is that all people learn differently. This means all people improve differently as well. Some will need to think it out logically or study more (that is what we assume works for everyone, but it obviously doesn't), some need to just do it enough times physically (experiential + kinesetic learning), some need to SEE it over and over(visual), some need audible cues, some need to gamify it, etc, etc... there are at least 8 different main learning types.
I think the Mariners never adjust their hitting mentality for each hitter, so it's like playing roulette whether someone will work out here or not. Most of the time, it doesn't.
(It's why that online Kelenic comic meme of him just needing to fuck some random chick and get out of his head is hilariously half-true. I don't think Kelenic's style meshes with the way Seattle does things... but that means we'll always be hit and miss with our talent. With our current mindset on hitting, our managing and coaching can easily destroy or mishandle talent. We get set on one certain thing (like control the zone, or make contact, etc) when that just won't work for everybody. I think it is important to create a team offensive identity, but then focusing more on the unique ways to get different hitters closer to that identity. If not, you just wipe out the good they've done before they got here to Seattle, drumming it in their heads to "think like US!" when it obviously isn't working for quite some time now...)
The only types I think who do well are the types of people who already mesh with our overthinking style, (ie: probably hitters like Haniger who work their asses off and always enjoy thinking of different ways to get better), are ones with so much talent they can do anything in any system(like Julio), or are too stubborn to listen and obey our overanalytical-thinking overlords. (like Ichiro)
I personally think they make the guys think too much. I've taught English in HS in the USA and all levels in Japan, and the best thing every damn education system tells teachers(but then sadly always ignores) is that all people learn differently. This means all people improve differently as well. Some will need to think it out logically or study more (that is what we assume works for everyone, but it obviously doesn't), some need to just do it enough times physically (experiential + kinesetic learning), some need to SEE it over and over(visual), some need audible cues, some need to gamify it, etc, etc... there are at least 8 different main learning types.
I think the Mariners never adjust their hitting mentality for each hitter, so it's like playing roulette whether someone will work out here or not. Most of the time, it doesn't.
(It's why that online Kelenic comic meme of him just needing to fuck some random chick and get out of his head is hilariously half-true. I don't think Kelenic's style meshes with the way Seattle does things... but that means we'll always be hit and miss with our talent. With our current mindset on hitting, our managing and coaching can easily destroy or mishandle talent. We get set on one certain thing (like control the zone, or make contact, etc) when that just won't work for everybody. I think it is important to create a team offensive identity, but then focusing more on the unique ways to get different hitters closer to that identity. If not, you just wipe out the good they've done before they got here to Seattle, drumming it in their heads to "think like US!" when it obviously isn't working for quite some time now...)
The only types I think who do well are the types of people who already mesh with our overthinking style, (ie: probably hitters like Haniger who work their asses off and always enjoy thinking of different ways to get better), are ones with so much talent they can do anything in any system(like Julio), or are too stubborn to listen and obey our overanalytical-thinking overlords. (like Ichiro)
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