Jerry

[D-train]

Actually the team with the best record hasn't won the WS that often. 88-92 wins seems the sweet spot. Expanding the playoff format has leveled the playing field

Contrast that rate of sub-90 win playoff teams hoisting the Commissioner’s “piece of metal” (nearly 11% of seasons), with how often the team with the best regular season record wins it all. From the implementation of four divisions in 1969 to the beginning of the Wild Card era (25 seasons) eight teams had the best regular season record and won the World Series. That meant in about 32% of those seasons the best team came out on top in October.

Since 1995, now 27 full seasons, that’s happened just 6 times, or in only 22.2% of seasons since the introduction of the Wild Card. Four of the World Series-winning underdog teams above have come since 1995, meaning that a sub-90-win club has won it all in 14.8% of seasons. It’s intuitive that as the MLB playoffs have expanded, the road would have gotten more difficult for the favorites, and we see that play out in the data.

https://www.twinkietown.com/2023/10/3/2 ... wins-fared

You try to put together to best team you possibly can every season and don't make trade deadline deals for the future which weaken your current team that still is in the playoff race. Weren't you highly critical of the Montgomery for Vogey trade in 2016??? Has Jerry convinced you that was a great idea??? lol

[Donn Beach]

For like the umpteenth time, I don't see Dipoto sticking to his formula. The formula works, that's the thing, Dipoto uses real data, he didn't just pull it out of his ass. My issue is the relationship between it and how they operate. That's the BS he is selling.

[D-train]

Actually the team with the best record hasn't won the WS that often. 88-92 wins seems the sweet spot. Expanding the playoff format has leveled the playing field

https://www.twinkietown.com/2023/10/3/2 ... wins-fared

Yes, but to be fair, the Twins now have a Rally Sausage which gives them an unfair advantage.

https://www.mlb.com/news/what-is-the-st ... ly-sausage

"Rally Sausage" sounds like the nickname an 80 year old man might give his penis.

Lynda loves it when my Sausage Rallies! lol

[Donn Beach]

It's like a straw man argument. Dipoto is cautioning against investing heavily in a small number of seasons. And I would tend to agree. But that doesn't mean you just don't invest.

[D-train]

For like the umpteenth time, I don't see Dipoto sticking to his formula. The formula works, that's the thing, Dipoto uses real data, he didn't just pull it out of his ass. My issue is the relationship between it and how they operate. That's the BS he is selling.

The formula DID NOT work from 1994-2003 for the Seattle Mariners and you can find teams that won it all without winning 54% over a decade which proves it is complete Made up Bullshit.

Of course team like the Braves and Dodgers the past 10 years and Red Sox from 2004-2013 Won WS and Won over 54% for the decade. Its BECAUSE they were trying to win WS titles Not because they were trying to win 54%. It is a fucking idiotic Goal. 54% is the residual artifact not the driver for success.

[Donn Beach]

That's what I'm saying, it's not a strategy, it's something that could be analyzed after the fact. It did apply, they made the playoffs. He didn't say you'd win a WS, he said more often than not. The mariners had a team that iwas considered WS favorites in 2001.

[Seattle or Bust]

Terms of odds, they are in eighth spot to win the WS

https://www.foxsports.com/stories/mlb/m ... eries-odds

Great -

I'd much rather be in the top 3 and have a dominant baseball team than pray that we somehow get hot in the playoffs or our pitching staff be so dominant that we mask the offensive inefficiencies.

I don't want to be the Diamondbacks who frankly had no business being the WS.

I want to the Braves, Dodgers, Astros of the last 5-6 seasons where you actually have an expectation that you're there.

With this pitching staff, it's embarrassing that we're not in that category.

[Donn Beach]

Over the last 10 years of completed seasons, including postseasons, these are the teams that averaged a .540 winning percentage or better:

Dodgers
Yankees
Cardinals
Guardians
Astros
That's it. That's the list.

How about Dipoto just doing it

[Sibelius Hindemith]

Over the last 10 years of completed seasons, including postseasons, these are the teams that averaged a .540 winning percentage or better:

Dodgers
Yankees
Cardinals
Guardians
Astros
That's it. That's the list.

How about Dipoto just doing it

The best way to do that is to build a 95+ win team and keep it together as long as possible, then rebuild. The worst way is to build an 87 win team every year.

[Donn Beach]

It's not a particularly easy thing to do or do I think you do it on the cheap. Looking at teams that have done it, what's the actual relationship to Dipotos strategy. Tossing it out there I guess because you came off of an 88 win season isn't what it's about