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Re: Early trade candidates

Post by Juliooooo » Mon May 06, 2024 9:27 pm

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That’s what he did to the mariners when they finally called him up
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Re: Early trade candidates

Post by D-train » Mon May 06, 2024 9:37 pm

Juliooooo wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 9:27 pm
D-train wrote:
Wed May 01, 2024 6:34 pm
That’s what he did to the mariners when they finally called him up
https://www.redlegnation.com/2024/05/04 ... oting-him/
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Re: Early trade candidates

Post by Seattle or Bust » Fri May 10, 2024 3:49 pm

D-train wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 9:37 pm
Juliooooo wrote:
Mon May 06, 2024 9:27 pm
D-train wrote:
Wed May 01, 2024 6:34 pm
That’s what he did to the mariners when they finally called him up
https://www.redlegnation.com/2024/05/04 ... oting-him/
They ended up giving him a deal. He's played the last 2 days.

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Re: Early trade candidates

Post by Seattle or Bust » Fri May 10, 2024 3:58 pm

Realistically, the ideal trade candidate for the M's would be outfielder Kyle Tucker from the Astros...

Tucker is slashing .268/.384/.558/.942 with 11 homers. He's an elite lefty bat which the M's desperately need. The last 3 seasons his numbers shake out to around a .870 OPS, 30 bombs and 100 RBI's a year.

He's got less than 2 years years left until he hits free agency... return might be similar to the Castillo haul.

If the Astros are out of contention, I wonder if a Bryan Woo + Cole Young + a few younger prospects deal would get it done.

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Re: Early trade candidates

Post by Big_Maple » Fri May 10, 2024 4:12 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 3:58 pm
Realistically, the ideal trade candidate for the M's would be outfielder Kyle Tucker from the Astros...

Tucker is slashing .268/.384/.558/.942 with 11 homers. He's an elite lefty bat which the M's desperately need. The last 3 seasons his numbers shake out to around a .870 OPS, 30 bombs and 100 RBI's a year.

He's got less than 2 years years left until he hits free agency... return might be similar to the Castillo haul.

If the Astros are out of contention, I wonder if a Bryan Woo + Cole Young + a few younger prospects deal would get it done.
Here's the sad thing - they could have resigned Teoscar and gotten a righty version of Tucker, and it wouldn't cost them a single prospect:
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Re: Early trade candidates

Post by Big_Maple » Fri May 10, 2024 4:22 pm

Even Jesse Winker is looking more like the player we'd hoped he would be when we traded for him then he ever was as a Mariner. He's miles better than the garbage we're trotting out there currently. He's got an OPS of .782 for crying out loud.
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Re: Early trade candidates

Post by Seattle or Bust » Fri May 10, 2024 4:42 pm

Big_Maple wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 4:12 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 3:58 pm
Realistically, the ideal trade candidate for the M's would be outfielder Kyle Tucker from the Astros...

Tucker is slashing .268/.384/.558/.942 with 11 homers. He's an elite lefty bat which the M's desperately need. The last 3 seasons his numbers shake out to around a .870 OPS, 30 bombs and 100 RBI's a year.

He's got less than 2 years years left until he hits free agency... return might be similar to the Castillo haul.

If the Astros are out of contention, I wonder if a Bryan Woo + Cole Young + a few younger prospects deal would get it done.
Here's the sad thing - they could have resigned Teoscar and gotten a righty version of Tucker, and it wouldn't cost them a single prospect:
Teoscar is hitting 6th in a lineup where the 5 players in front of him have these stats:

Betts: .346/.451/.556/1.006
Ohtani: .355/.425/.678/1.103
Freeman: .301/.414/.455/.868
Smith: .331/.387/.508/.895
Muncy: .256/.362/.556/.917

You honestly think Teo would be putting up the same numbers in the M's lineup?

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Re: Early trade candidates

Post by Big_Maple » Fri May 10, 2024 4:46 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 4:42 pm

You honestly think Teo would be putting up the same numbers in the M's lineup?
Fair point. But could he be worse than Mitch?

And if we traded for Tucker, would his stats drop off because he's suddenly the middle of a garbage sandwich?

All of the dude on the Dodgers are benefiting from the guys hitting before and after them. It's like someone put together their dream team on MLB The Show by selecting the "force trades" and "ignore budgets" options.

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Re: Early trade candidates

Post by Seattle or Bust » Fri May 10, 2024 4:55 pm

Big_Maple wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 4:46 pm
Seattle or Bust wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 4:42 pm

You honestly think Teo would be putting up the same numbers in the M's lineup?
Fair point. But could he be worse than Mitch?

And if we traded for Tucker, would his stats drop off because he's suddenly the middle of a garbage sandwich?

All of the dude on the Dodgers are benefiting from the guys hitting before and after them. It's like someone put together their dream team on MLB The Show by selecting the "force trades" and "ignore budgets" options.
I don't think Teo is anywhere near as talented as Tucker. A lefty bat is going to play much better at T-Mobile too.

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^ Mitch has virtually the same stats through April and May that Teo had during the same months as a Mariner.

I don't think he would be worse. I don't think he would be anything more than marginally better.

Teo is also not a bargain. He's on a $23.5 million deal. The M's couldn't have possibly paid him given how mediocre he was for them last season.

Tucker is making $12 and then probably $15 next year.

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Re: Early trade candidates

Post by Big_Maple » Fri May 10, 2024 5:26 pm

Seattle or Bust wrote:
Fri May 10, 2024 4:55 pm
I don't think Teo is anywhere near as talented as Tucker. A lefty bat is going to play much better at T-Mobile too.
A few good points here. But I am still not sure that Tucker would be worth the cost - it would take quite a prospect haul to a division rival to land him, and I doubt the Stros would trade him anyway. Better for them to extend him in a year.

If we are looking to deal away talent to get talent from division rivals, I would like to get Mason Miller from the A's. The dude is a total stud.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... ma03.shtml

Move Munoz to the setup role. Munoz, Stanek and Miller?? Aye carumba.

This doesn't solve the offensive woes we have, but if we went for a blockbuster package that included Brent Rooker, it would make us serious contenders.

https://www.baseball-reference.com/play ... br01.shtml

I can't put together a trade proposal because baseballtradevalues now requires a subscription. It would likely involve moving a Miller or a Woo, but we could backfill one of those with Hancock and still have a great starting rotation.

BTW: I realize this is an insane proposal. The A's would be trading away 2 of their best players while they are starting their rebuild in preparation for their relocation. But there is some indication that Miller, at least, is drawing some interest. If the A's are listening, we should be speaking. Yelling, in fact.

https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2024/05/ ... ntion.html

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