Trade Elias?

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Re: Trade Elias?

Post by bpj » Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:00 pm

There is no doubt Dipoto has been a Jekyll and Hyde. In my opinion a GM could be held back by certain members of his front office.

Dipoto went from missing on nearly everything to striking gold on everything about midseason last year imo.

One hypothesis I've been mulling over is Tom McNamara.

He moved from scouting director to Special Assistant to the GM. Something I can only relate to Dwight Schrute...

Why was McNamara the culprit? Hear me out.

Part of the Mariners problem in recent years, in my opinion, is the light hitting speedsters they tried calling corner outfielders.

Check out McNamara's claim to fame on his Baseball Reference page, for example:
McNamara stole 71 bases in college in 1988, a school record. He was undrafted but played for the 1988 Bellingham Mariners and hit .224/.323/.245 in 50 games. He stole four bases in eight tries and scored 13 runs. He fielded .912 at shortstop. He then became a coach at Rockland Community College.
No doubt a former shortstop who thought he could have played CF or even RF or LF if they had just given him a shot. Since he was "promoted" to Special Assistant.. to.. the.. GM the Mariners have completely changed course on acquisitions. Out with the Ben Gamel's, in with the Domingo Santana's. Out with the Mike Zunino's, in with the Omar Narvaez's.

It's hard to tell exactly what happened, but as far as the 180 degree difference in player acquisitions, it appears to have coincided with, no surprise, a new scouting director replacing McNamara.

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Re: Trade Elias?

Post by Hy Feiber » Wed Jul 03, 2019 10:09 pm

bpj wrote:
Wed Jul 03, 2019 9:00 pm
There is no doubt Dipoto has been a Jekyll and Hyde. In my opinion a GM could be held back by certain members of his front office.

Dipoto went from missing on nearly everything to striking gold on everything about midseason last year imo.

One hypothesis I've been mulling over is Tom McNamara.

He moved from scouting director to Special Assistant to the GM. Something I can only relate to Dwight Schrute...

Why was McNamara the culprit? Hear me out.

Part of the Mariners problem in recent years, in my opinion, is the light hitting speedsters they tried calling corner outfielders.

Check out McNamara's claim to fame on his Baseball Reference page, for example:
McNamara stole 71 bases in college in 1988, a school record. He was undrafted but played for the 1988 Bellingham Mariners and hit .224/.323/.245 in 50 games. He stole four bases in eight tries and scored 13 runs. He fielded .912 at shortstop. He then became a coach at Rockland Community College.
No doubt a former shortstop who thought he could have played CF or even RF or LF if they had just given him a shot. Since he was "promoted" to Special Assistant.. to.. the.. GM the Mariners have completely changed course on acquisitions. Out with the Ben Gamel's, in with the Domingo Santana's. Out with the Mike Zunino's, in with the Omar Narvaez's.

It's hard to tell exactly what happened, but as far as the 180 degree difference in player acquisitions, it appears to have coincided with, no surprise, a new scouting director replacing McNamara.
Interesting to consider.

I’m tired of this organization’s crazy habit of switching guys from position to position, infield to outfield and back, depending upon which day of the week it is, messing up Ackley, Gordon, and others, like Mad Scientists!

Look at how much better Santana has been playing in RF, his regular position. “Only” took 60 games for SS to make a change.

They need extra Ritalin.

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Re: Trade Elias?

Post by D-train » Thu Jul 04, 2019 4:59 am

Should have done it yesterday. Horrific outing.
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Re: Trade Elias?

Post by Hy Feiber » Thu Jul 04, 2019 12:58 pm

Hy’s Kiss of Death, praising Elias.

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Re: Trade Elias?

Post by ice99 » Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:35 pm

After the M's trade Leake, I was looking at Milone, who will be a free agent. The M's have LeBlanc who is almost 35, and Milone who is 32. Should they trade LeBlanc instead of Milone? I guess the M's have until the end of the month to figure that out.

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Re: Trade Elias?

Post by D-train » Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:43 pm

ice99 wrote:
Thu Jul 04, 2019 5:35 pm
After the M's trade Leake, I was looking at Milone, who will be a free agent. The M's have LeBlanc who is almost 35, and Milone who is 32. Should they trade LeBlanc instead of Milone? I guess the M's have until the end of the month to figure that out.
Guessing they would bring a similar return......I would think they would keep LeBlanc due to the team friendly contract.
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