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Re: Winker good as gone?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:54 pm
by Optimistic Ms Fan
I don't see them just eating his contract to sit home when he's making that much. You might as well hope for a rebound and see what he can do.
Re: Winker good as gone?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:59 pm
by Cascade Kid
Optimistic Ms Fan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:54 pm
I don't see them just eating his contract to sit home when he's making that much. You might as well hope for a rebound and see what he can do.
I don't think JD would be that emotional about it. Wink would be off the team, it opens a roster spot, and retains Winker as a 100% tradeable asset. The upside is opening a roster spot to add performance value to the team. Sunk costs are sunk costs, but you can't let them sink you.
Re: Winker good as gone?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:26 pm
by D-train
Optimistic Ms Fan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:54 pm
I don't see them just eating his contract to sit home when he's making that much. You might as well hope for a rebound and see what he can do.
Its legal to trade players in MLB.
Re: Winker good as gone?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:28 pm
by D-train
One other thing, regardless how goofy the whole IG thing is. He physically to the time to go in and unfollow both his teammates AND the M's org. That is not a meaningless gesture.
Re: Winker good as gone?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:29 pm
by Big_Maple
Cascade Kid wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:59 pm
Optimistic Ms Fan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:54 pm
I don't see them just eating his contract to sit home when he's making that much. You might as well hope for a rebound and see what he can do.
I don't think JD would be that emotional about it. Wink would be off the team, it opens a roster spot, and retains Winker as a 100% tradeable asset. The upside is opening a roster spot to add performance value to the team. Sunk costs are sunk costs, but you can't let them sink you.
I agree about the emotional part. But $7M is a lot to eat right off the bat. If they DFA him right away, they have something like a week to place him on waivers or trade him. Why not hold onto him for the offseason and see if you get any nibbles. As Optimistic says, see if he bounces back. Given his history as an offensive player, he very well might. But to cut him loose just to open a spot on the roster next week doesn't see wise. Hell, they don't even sort out the 40 man until after spring training.
Re: Winker good as gone?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:33 pm
by D-train
My God, why would they DFA him???
Re: Winker good as gone?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:50 pm
by Cascade Kid
Big_Maple wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:29 pm
Cascade Kid wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:59 pm
Optimistic Ms Fan wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 8:54 pm
I don't see them just eating his contract to sit home when he's making that much. You might as well hope for a rebound and see what he can do.
I don't think JD would be that emotional about it. Wink would be off the team, it opens a roster spot, and retains Winker as a 100% tradeable asset. The upside is opening a roster spot to add performance value to the team. Sunk costs are sunk costs, but you can't let them sink you.
I agree about the emotional part. But $7M is a lot to eat right off the bat. If they DFA him right away, they have something like a week to place him on waivers or trade him. Why not hold onto him for the offseason and see if you get any nibbles. As Optimistic says, see if he bounces back. Given his history as an offensive player, he very well might. But to cut him loose just to open a spot on the roster next week doesn't see wise. Hell, they don't even sort out the 40 man until after spring training.
I'm sure you're right and I'm 100% wrong.
Re: Winker good as gone?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:54 pm
by Big_Maple
D-train wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:33 pm
My God, why would they DFA him???
It's what the Cascade Kid asked originally:
"I assume that if JD can't get rid of Winker before Friday via trade opportunity then they will DFA him to make room on the 40-man to take care of other business that must be tended to."
Re: Winker good as gone?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:01 pm
by GL_Storm
Big_Maple wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:54 pm
D-train wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:33 pm
My God, why would they DFA him???
It's what the Cascade Kid asked originally:
"I assume that if JD can't get rid of Winker before Friday via trade opportunity then they will DFA him to make room on the 40-man to take care of other business that must be tended to."
They aren't going to DFA him. They don't need roster spots that desperately and unless I'm missing something they don't need to make that decision until just before the Rule 5 draft. Or is there something here I'm not understanding about Friday?
Re: Winker good as gone?
Posted: Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:09 pm
by Cascade Kid
GL_Storm wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 10:01 pm
Big_Maple wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:54 pm
D-train wrote: ↑Mon Nov 07, 2022 9:33 pm
My God, why would they DFA him???
It's what the Cascade Kid asked originally:
"I assume that if JD can't get rid of Winker before Friday via trade opportunity then they will DFA him to make room on the 40-man to take care of other business that must be tended to."
They aren't going to DFA him. They don't need roster spots that desperately and unless I'm missing something they don't need to make that decision until just before the Rule 5 draft. Or is there something here I'm not understanding about Friday?
I believe 5 eligible players need to be placed on the 40 man roster by next Tuesday, correct?