Bauer: Would it be a move you would make?
Re: Bauer: Would it be a move you would make?
After reading up a bit more, it looks to me that whichever team signs Bauers after he gets released is only responsible for league minimum unless Bauers signs for more than the $35M that the Dodgers owe him which seems unlikely.
I believe the new team will only be responsible for paying league minimum (because there's no reason to pay more when it just goes to the Dodgers).
He just needs a place to play, if he wants to. He'll get paid by the Dodgers either way.
An explanation of a similar situation-
https://sports.stackexchange.com/questi ... other-team
I believe the new team will only be responsible for paying league minimum (because there's no reason to pay more when it just goes to the Dodgers).
He just needs a place to play, if he wants to. He'll get paid by the Dodgers either way.
An explanation of a similar situation-
https://sports.stackexchange.com/questi ... other-team
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And the team willing to do it... Astros of course
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Re: Bauer: Would it be a move you would make?
If the Dodgers wanted to release him wouldn't they have done it a couple of years ago?
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Reprehensible conduct is not always a crime, especially a crime that the state can prove beyond a reasonable doubt. In the Trevor Bauer matter, the prosecutors made the decision that a crime could not be proven beyond a reasonable doubt.
The issues and the standard of proof will be different in Bauer's defamation suit and one accuser's countersuit.
https://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/ ... evor-bauer
For better or worse the matters will be resolved in the American court system instead of on a baseball forum.
The issues and the standard of proof will be different in Bauer's defamation suit and one accuser's countersuit.
https://www.latimes.com/sports/dodgers/ ... evor-bauer
For better or worse the matters will be resolved in the American court system instead of on a baseball forum.
Re: Bauer: Would it be a move you would make?
He would be a premium player on the cheap. I wonder who is going to sign him? And it looks like the Nay have almost caught the Yays.bpj wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:51 pmAfter reading up a bit more, it looks to me that whichever team signs Bauers after he gets released is only responsible for league minimum unless Bauers signs for more than the $35M that the Dodgers owe him which seems unlikely.
I believe the new team will only be responsible for paying league minimum (because there's no reason to pay more when it just goes to the Dodgers).
He just needs a place to play, if he wants to. He'll get paid by the Dodgers either way.
An explanation of a similar situation-
https://sports.stackexchange.com/questi ... other-team
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Okay, but this isn't about the criminal justice system. He was suspended for being in violatioUn of MLBs DV policy. It's really a different set of standards. I don't believe there is anything in it allowing for an agreement to hit a domestic partner. He hit her, that put him in violation. So yeah, he could guilty of no more than having some rough sex with a consenting partner and still be subject to suspension. Terms of the civil case, all you have to do is look at the Simpson case to see how little relevance there is between civil and criminal law. The guy was found innocent in a criminal court but still got reamed for killing her in a civil courtbpj wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:29 pmSure, with the understanding that he wasn't charged with anything. So as long as people assume his innocence instead of his guilt, as our system is built on, there's no problem.Donn Beach wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:09 pmSee how the lawsuits play out, that she has found lawyers to file her suit, there must be something there. How about we let it get decided in court
Many people didn't even read all the texts and it shows. They didn't pay attention that she claimed to have a skull fracture, but her doctor said she did not. She even took a video the next morning in bed with Bauer where she 's perfectly fine.
Seems to be the same people that believe what the TV news tells them about politics that think Bauers is guilty of anything more than rough, consensual sex. Correct me if I'm wrong on that.
Re: Bauer: Would it be a move you would make?
Exactly why Geno Smith will likely get suspended regardless of whether or not he is convicted of DUI.Donn Beach wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 2:35 amOkay, but this isn't about the criminal justice system. He was suspended for being in violatioUn of MLBs DV policy. It's really a different set of standards. I don't believe there is anything in it allowing for an agreement to hit a domestic partner. He hit her, that put him in violation. So yeah, he could guilty of no more than having some rough sex with a consenting partner and still be subject to suspension. Terms of the civil case, all you have to do is look at the Simpson case to see how little relevance there is between civil and criminal law. The guy was found innocent in a criminal court but still got reamed for killing her in a civil courtbpj wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:29 pmSure, with the understanding that he wasn't charged with anything. So as long as people assume his innocence instead of his guilt, as our system is built on, there's no problem.Donn Beach wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:09 pmSee how the lawsuits play out, that she has found lawyers to file her suit, there must be something there. How about we let it get decided in court
Many people didn't even read all the texts and it shows. They didn't pay attention that she claimed to have a skull fracture, but her doctor said she did not. She even took a video the next morning in bed with Bauer where she 's perfectly fine.
Seems to be the same people that believe what the TV news tells them about politics that think Bauers is guilty of anything more than rough, consensual sex. Correct me if I'm wrong on that.
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Look, I'm no saint and never claimed to be.Pharmabro wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 11:54 pmI don't care if someone else has sex in his, or hers, or they's way. He did not desclose his preference it was released via a predatory individual trying to smear him publicly destroy his career and advance her own agenda. And some of you have the audacity to try to flex for morality points? We all have our little kinks and I would call myself pretty f-ing granola.TraderGary wrote: ↑Mon Jan 02, 2023 9:25 pmThank you desbcoach. My position as well. Troubling that 7 out of 10 of you would be in favor of it. Am seriously questioning if I belong here.
Do not judge lest you be judged. For in the way you judge, you will be judged; and by your standard of measure, it will be measured to you. — Matthew 7:1-2
If you don't like scripture something about living in a glass house and not bring a wise thing to throw stones.
Yes, that woman was a little kinky and wanted a little rough sex. I have no issue with that. More power to them. But I'm pretty sure she didn't ask to get the shit beat out of her. Does anyone think this was an isolated incident for Bauer?
How many rapes go unreported because the victims know if they file charges and go to court, they're going to end up being the ones put on trial by the slimeball lawyers.
Baur obviously has the resources to hire the best attorneys in the land and have them twist the facts to meet their narrative. Happens every day. Look at O.J. who literally got away with a double murder for gods sake because he had the best defense money could buy. So no, I don't believe Baur is the "victim" in this scenario. Two reasons for that:
1). As someone else already mentioned, if her attorney's felt they didn't have a winnable case, why go to all this time and expense to build one.
2). No I have not followed this case closely at all so admittedly I do not know all the details. But if it's coming out that this girl is just a gold digger looking for a payday, and a lot of her claims are proving to be false, why is it his teammates, many of whom I'm sure were close friends with him, still want absolutely nothing to do with him? I suspect that they already knew who and what he is, and that he likely did the things she's claiming.
Regardless, if that's the type of people you want to root for, that's certainly your right. I choose not to.
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You mean the "soy bloggers" that actually have a moral compass? Those soy bloggers?bpj wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:38 pmThey most likely won't, too concerned about their image, not to mention the soy bloggers are already outraged at just the thought of signing Bauers, and they would cause a problem for Jerry and ownership.
Most teams will stay away, and he's already getting paid by the Dodgers, so he's most likely in line for a micro-contract.
He'll be lucky to get 1/$3M imo. May even be a league minimum contract.
Is anyone positive that whatever the team that signs him pays doesn't just come out of what the Dodgers would have owed him?
It may be that because he'll be fully released he can sign a second contract and fully collect, but I remember a few previous cases where the team that signed the player just paid league minimum and that amount just came off of what the team that released him owed.
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Yes, those ones. Unfortunately their compass is as broken as yours is.TraderGary wrote: ↑Wed Jan 04, 2023 3:05 amYou mean the "soy bloggers" that actually have a moral compass? Those soy bloggers?bpj wrote: ↑Tue Jan 03, 2023 5:38 pmThey most likely won't, too concerned about their image, not to mention the soy bloggers are already outraged at just the thought of signing Bauers, and they would cause a problem for Jerry and ownership.
Most teams will stay away, and he's already getting paid by the Dodgers, so he's most likely in line for a micro-contract.
He'll be lucky to get 1/$3M imo. May even be a league minimum contract.
Is anyone positive that whatever the team that signs him pays doesn't just come out of what the Dodgers would have owed him?
It may be that because he'll be fully released he can sign a second contract and fully collect, but I remember a few previous cases where the team that signed the player just paid league minimum and that amount just came off of what the team that released him owed.
They're as uninformed as you admit you are, but they can't stop virtue signaling any opportunity they get to gain soft brained followers.
Innocent until proven guilty is an important part of a moral compass in my opinion. If you believe every rumor about someone without knowing the details and then climb on your soapbox, it doesn't make you look virtuous. It makes you look like a foolish puppet following what everyone else is saying.