Julio's home OPS this season is .582

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Post by Donn Beach » Tue Aug 12, 2025 6:21 am

Ichiro deferred $5 mil a year of his extension to give the mariners salary flexibility, and the Mariners responded by actually reducing payroll after signing him to that extension, I really do not blame ichiros contract for somehow hobbling them. They took the money he gave back and put it in the bank or maybe spent it on lap dances

It is about balancing the present and the future, and I am happy with it. I couldn't imagine tearing up Julio's contract for the opportunity to have perhaps another $10 mil to spend this season which probably would have gone to lap dances as well. That would make less sense to me than trading top prospects for short term player additions.

“We had a few long conversations just talking about the future, the now, where we're at, where we need to add, where we think we're good and just kind of looking at the whole picture,” Raleigh said. “Obviously, like I said, now is important, but the future as well. And seeing what they had in the works, I liked what I saw.”
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Re: Julio's home OPS this season is .582

Post by bpj » Tue Aug 12, 2025 6:29 am

Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Aug 12, 2025 6:21 am
Ichiro deferred $5 mil a year of his extension to give the mariners salary flexibility, and the Mariners responded by actually reducing payroll after signing him to that extension, I really do not blame ichiros contract for somehow hobbling them. They took the money he gave back to them and put it in the bank or maybe on lap dances

It is about balancing the present and the future, and I am happy with it. I couldn't imagine tearing up Julio's contract for the opportunity to have perhaps another $10 mil to spend this season. That would make less sense to me than trading top prospects for short term player additions.

“We had a few long conversations just talking about the future, the now, where we're at, where we need to add, where we think we're good and just kind of looking at the whole picture,” Raleigh said. “Obviously, like I said, now is important, but the future as well. And seeing what they had in the works, I liked what I saw.”
If they win this year it'll be worth it. If not, it cost them some wins and is fair game to question. Especially if he hurts a knee or something in the near future.

I wouldn't tear up the contract either probably. But I can acknowledge it came at a present cost.

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Post by Donn Beach » Tue Aug 12, 2025 6:37 am

I agree with you, it could come at the cost of say, 1-2 wins. Which makes certain assumptions I don't think are for granted. That they would have spent an additional $10 mil. I don't see that sort of strong relationship. But lets say 2 wins, if they miss the playoffs by two wins that would certainly be regrettable. But I am not going to second guess giving Julio that contract. That decision stands on its own, it was a good decision

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Post by Michael K. » Tue Aug 12, 2025 12:18 pm

His contract isn’t an issue, if he hits. But he’s outside the top fucking 80 in OPS!

Cracks me up that you have a fan base that pretends the organization can’t be criticized, and that organization has made one playoff appearance in two and a half decades!

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Post by Donn Beach » Tue Aug 12, 2025 2:11 pm

ESPNs annual top 50 baseball players, in season update

Cal at four
What to expect from here: Other records could fall. Four more home runs and he beats Salvador Perez's single-season mark for catchers. Another 11 will tie Ken Griffey Jr.'s Mariners record of 56. Perhaps the AL mark of 62 by Judge is out of reach, but it's impossible to say with the sort of heaters Raleigh has gone on multiple times this season. With the thump that surrounds him in Seattle's lineup, he doesn't have quite the same onus to carry the Mariners. But if there's a big at-bat, there's only one person they want to take it. -- Jeff Passan
Julio at twenty-two
What to expect from here: Rodriguez is a renowned second-half hitter (his OPS in August and September is over .900 in his career compared with .654 in April), and he's showing signs of heating up once again. The Mariners would love to see him replicate what he did last September, when he hit .328 with 22 RBIs. History says that might happen. -- Schoenfield
Geno at 37
What to expect from here: Even at his best, Suarez hasn't been anyone's idea of a consistent hitter. He can lapse into deep funks and emerge as a world-beater. That's how the swing works for mashers like Suarez. He doesn't walk, and he strikes out too much. Almost nobody swings and misses more. But when he's seeing the ball well and the swing is right, it's majestic, the kind of swing that, from the No. 5 hole, can drive in a lot of baserunners. That is why the Mariners traded for Suarez: He is one of the best at the most important thing to do in the game. -- Passan
https://www.espn.ph/mlb/story/_/id/4594 ... al-raleigh

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Post by Michael K. » Tue Aug 12, 2025 3:34 pm

You are right Donn. I give up. Jerry should win executive of the year and this ownership group should get a parade through the city. I give up.

Some guy ranks Julio based on what he usually does to finish the season and you give us credit for a guy that's been here two weeks and most likely be gone in the winter. All hail the organization that told you after one playoff appearance in two and a half decades that you should be thanking them.

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Re: Julio's home OPS this season is .582

Post by Donn Beach » Tue Aug 12, 2025 4:01 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Tue Aug 12, 2025 3:34 pm
You are right Donn. I give up. Jerry should win executive of the year and this ownership group should get a parade through the city. I give up.

Some guy ranks Julio based on what he usually does to finish the season and you give us credit for a guy that's been here two weeks and most likely be gone in the winter. All hail the organization that told you after one playoff appearance in two and a half decades that you should be thanking them.
Having three of what's considered the top 50 best players in baseball in our lineup is something for you to complain about, okay

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Post by Michael K. » Tue Aug 12, 2025 4:36 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Aug 12, 2025 4:01 pm
Michael K. wrote:
Tue Aug 12, 2025 3:34 pm
You are right Donn. I give up. Jerry should win executive of the year and this ownership group should get a parade through the city. I give up.

Some guy ranks Julio based on what he usually does to finish the season and you give us credit for a guy that's been here two weeks and most likely be gone in the winter. All hail the organization that told you after one playoff appearance in two and a half decades that you should be thanking them.
Having three of what's considered the top 50 best players in baseball in our lineup is something for you to complain about, okay
Yep, I am complaining about it. I can't with you dude. You know exactly what you are doing, or worse yet? You don't. Either way. Fuck it. You are right, this organization should be fucking celebrated for winning two playoff games and one single WC series in two and a half decades. And? Just like they told you, we should all be thanking them.

Again, the guy ranking them is putting Julio there based on what he thinks he'll do the rest of the season and Geno has been here two weeks. But yeah, perfectly relevant in this topic.

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Post by Donn Beach » Tue Aug 12, 2025 5:01 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Tue Aug 12, 2025 4:36 pm
Donn Beach wrote:
Tue Aug 12, 2025 4:01 pm
Michael K. wrote:
Tue Aug 12, 2025 3:34 pm
You are right Donn. I give up. Jerry should win executive of the year and this ownership group should get a parade through the city. I give up.

Some guy ranks Julio based on what he usually does to finish the season and you give us credit for a guy that's been here two weeks and most likely be gone in the winter. All hail the organization that told you after one playoff appearance in two and a half decades that you should be thanking them.
Having three of what's considered the top 50 best players in baseball in our lineup is something for you to complain about, okay
Yep, I am complaining about it. I can't with you dude. You know exactly what you are doing, or worse yet? You don't. Either way. Fuck it. You are right, this organization should be fucking celebrated for winning two playoff games and one single WC series in two and a half decades. And? Just like they told you, we should all be thanking them.

Again, the guy ranking them is putting Julio there based on what he thinks he'll do the rest of the season and Geno has been here two weeks. But yeah, perfectly relevant in this topic.
Its a panel of 17 ESPN writers. They come out at the beginning of the season with the list, this is an update. The ranking is for their entire season. It's not based on what they might do, that's just a paragraph for each player looking ahead. I just stuck that in there because that's what I am generally interested in. I just tend to look forward

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Re: Julio's home OPS this season is .582

Post by Captain 97 » Tue Aug 12, 2025 5:04 pm

Michael K. wrote:
Tue Aug 12, 2025 12:18 pm
His contract isn’t an issue, if he hits. But he’s outside the top fucking 80 in OPS!

Cracks me up that you have a fan base that pretends the organization can’t be criticized, and that organization has made one playoff appearance in two and a half decades!
He has a 4.9 bWAR which 9th among MLB position players.
His fWAR is 3.7 which is 21st.
He is 10th in Runs
He is 12th in SB
He is 20th in HR
He is 21st in Defensive Runs Saved
He is 35th in RBI
He is the 37th highest paid position player. I don't see a problem with his contract.

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