Nola traded to the Padres
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I’m not a Dipoto fan at all. But, I have to agree this is a good trade. Their 4th and 5th overall prospects and some other one in areas of need. Nice.
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Who was the other top 5 prospect? Trammell is 5, who was 4?
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Just got home and saw this trade happened, seems like Dipoto wants that #1 farm system in baseball title.D-train wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 2:58 amGreat trade for us though.
Solid MLB player where we need one at 3B/2B in France
Lights out reliever in Munoz
MLB catcher where we had none in Torrens
High upside OFer in Trammell.
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Solid versatile player that was already 30 yo
Trash Reliever in Altavilla
Hurt reliever in Adams
That's a win for JD no matter how you slice it.
He still has some big chips if he's chopping down to the bone to cash in guys like Nola and Altavilla.
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Sounds like a catcher to pair with Raleigh, a new 3B and an OF to add to the very talented pile.
Plus a new future closer?
The Diaz deal was impressive and probably brought back a bigger talent, but this is just as impressive on first look.
Plus a new future closer?
The Diaz deal was impressive and probably brought back a bigger talent, but this is just as impressive on first look.
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Trammel - was the no. 11 prospect in baseball last year... dropped after a mediocre AA season. good speed and glove in the OF. walks at a good rate, but needs to up contact rate. shows good tools for power but hasn't translated yet hence his low OPS. plus base stealer.
France - hit 27 HR's in just 76 games and was good for a 1.247 OPS in AAA last year... surprising they are referring to him simply as a utility guy... utility guys don't have that kind of potential power. Seems versatile in the field... able to make some nice diving plays at 3rd. In the minors he had a 1.7 to 1 K to BB ratio... which is really solid. Has an .885 OPS thus far for the Pads in 2020... that plays anywhere. Seems sorta like France is a younger Nola... he's played catcher before too. Swing reminds me of a mix between Pete Alonso and Mike Napoli.
Torrens - looks like they're gonna give Joe Odom a longer look... or they're making room for Cal Raleigh. Torrens, aside from a solid 2019 AA campaign where he hit for a .873 OPS, hit for about a .700 OPS at every step in the minors. Seems like a solid defensive catcher... likes to catch from sort of a modified crouch and has a quick pop/gets more on his throws because of it. Backup catcher, but oh well.
Munoz - Been said many times in this thread, but he's hit 104 in the minors and often times reaches 102. In 22 games with the Padres in 2019 he had 30 K's over 23 innings. Again, as mentioned, he's recovering from TJ... but pitchers have been coming back stronger from that surgery than ever before. He sits at 100 MPH and has a tight slider that has a 12-13 MPH difference.
France - hit 27 HR's in just 76 games and was good for a 1.247 OPS in AAA last year... surprising they are referring to him simply as a utility guy... utility guys don't have that kind of potential power. Seems versatile in the field... able to make some nice diving plays at 3rd. In the minors he had a 1.7 to 1 K to BB ratio... which is really solid. Has an .885 OPS thus far for the Pads in 2020... that plays anywhere. Seems sorta like France is a younger Nola... he's played catcher before too. Swing reminds me of a mix between Pete Alonso and Mike Napoli.
Torrens - looks like they're gonna give Joe Odom a longer look... or they're making room for Cal Raleigh. Torrens, aside from a solid 2019 AA campaign where he hit for a .873 OPS, hit for about a .700 OPS at every step in the minors. Seems like a solid defensive catcher... likes to catch from sort of a modified crouch and has a quick pop/gets more on his throws because of it. Backup catcher, but oh well.
Munoz - Been said many times in this thread, but he's hit 104 in the minors and often times reaches 102. In 22 games with the Padres in 2019 he had 30 K's over 23 innings. Again, as mentioned, he's recovering from TJ... but pitchers have been coming back stronger from that surgery than ever before. He sits at 100 MPH and has a tight slider that has a 12-13 MPH difference.
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I'm wondering if Trammell has fallen out of favor with the Padre organization, really disappointing season in AA last year. Still young enough to turn it around though. When you add the other players, especially France who looks like he can really hit, this is a good deal. I think we're all pleasantly surprised. My guess is France is in the lineup every day and we ride out the season with the scrubs at catcher.
I wonder if Seager is going to be traded and France is our new third baseman?
I wonder if Seager is going to be traded and France is our new third baseman?
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I had to read, re-read, then re-re-read the stats and backgrounds of the players we acquired. There’s a lot there, and it looks good for us on paper.
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Trammell immediately raises our farm system from 5 to 6 top 100 MLB prospects including three outfielders not named Kyle Lewis: Kelenic, Rodriguez, Trammell. We also have Hancock and Gilbert among starters in the top 100, and Evan White.DavidGee24 wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 5:49 amI'm wondering if Trammell has fallen out of favor with the Padre organization, really disappointing season in AA last year. Still young enough to turn it around though. When you add the other players, especially France who looks like he can really hit, this is a good deal. I think we're all pleasantly surprised. My guess is France is in the lineup every day and we ride out the season with the scrubs at catcher.
I wonder if Seager is going to be traded and France is our new third baseman?
Munoz has really unlimited potential as an eventual closer with his superhuman velocity (98-104+), one of the top three in baseball and that wipe out slider (88-90). As noted, he's coming off Tommy John, and many, many these days are coming back from Tommy John stronger than before (ie, TaiJuan Walker).
Third base has gone to a place of strength now in the pipeline behind Seager.... Two years ago, our lone top 30 prospect was young Joe Rizzo, now Austin Shenton from Bellingham (who along with Buhner and Jose Canseco are the only ones ever to hit a home run over the batter's eye wall in Tacoma) and now Ty France who is MLB ready, average speed, great slightly open batting stance with plenty of control and gap power.... I see him taking over second base right now for the Mariners, and eventually battling Shenton for Seager's spot at third. Seager is now a near certain trade piece either this winter or at the mid season next year.
We certainly have more controllable depth at catcher with defensive specialist Luis Torrens... I believe he is under Mariner control thru 2025 and as I said, he can play defense but also, he has potential with the bat. San Diego had solid depth at catcher, but they needed the experience of Nola to compete at the elite level, otherwise Torrens is not available. Now they have Nola, they have Francisco Meija (who had a 50+ game hitting streak in AA) who was the top catching prospect in 2019 and Luis Campusano who is the 4th highest rated catching prospect currently and the first catcher drafted in 2017.
I love this trade, it could all go wrong, but it could all go so right and should be .... We have tremendous versatility, more depth, amazing outfield potential... Lewis, Kellenic, Rodriguez, Trammell, DeLoach, a genuine flamethrower...( A right handed Randy Johnson/Aroldis Chapman potential?) in Munoz. These guys make everybody else better.... We now have the strongest farm system in baseball..... not bad. And we still don't know who we get for Taijuan Walker.
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Good assessment other than Torrens is the new starting catcher. Odom had a .592 OPS at Ark last season as a 28 yo. No way in hell that guy can hit MLB pitching. He has one hit in 18 PAs for us this season.IStillLoveTheMs wrote: ↑Mon Aug 31, 2020 4:59 amTrammel - was the no. 11 prospect in baseball last year... dropped after a mediocre AA season. good speed and glove in the OF. walks at a good rate, but needs to up contact rate. shows good tools for power but hasn't translated yet hence his low OPS. plus base stealer.
France - hit 27 HR's in just 76 games and was good for a 1.247 OPS in AAA last year... surprising they are referring to him simply as a utility guy... utility guys don't have that kind of potential power. Seems versatile in the field... able to make some nice diving plays at 3rd. In the minors he had a 1.7 to 1 K to BB ratio... which is really solid. Has an .885 OPS thus far for the Pads in 2020... that plays anywhere. Seems sorta like France is a younger Nola... he's played catcher before too. Swing reminds me of a mix between Pete Alonso and Mike Napoli.
Torrens - looks like they're gonna give Joe Odom a longer look... or they're making room for Cal Raleigh. Torrens, aside from a solid 2019 AA campaign where he hit for a .873 OPS, hit for about a .700 OPS at every step in the minors. Seems like a solid defensive catcher... likes to catch from sort of a modified crouch and has a quick pop/gets more on his throws because of it. Backup catcher, but oh well.
Munoz - Been said many times in this thread, but he's hit 104 in the minors and often times reaches 102. In 22 games with the Padres in 2019 he had 30 K's over 23 innings. Again, as mentioned, he's recovering from TJ... but pitchers have been coming back stronger from that surgery than ever before. He sits at 100 MPH and has a tight slider that has a 12-13 MPH difference.
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And Munoz should be ready about the time we start our run, Jerry just made us better in one great move, I won’t miss Altivilla even for a second, Nola hurts us short term, but the talkathon is on. And I’d much rather watch France struggle at the plate than the dough boy Vogey