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Re: Unpopular opinion, I would trade Vogelbach at some point this season
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:53 am
by Donn Beach
Ackley 2011 ...Tacoma in 271 at bats,.303/.421/.487/.908 ...then with the Mariners in 333 at bats, .273/.348/.417/.766 that same season. Where is the evidence of his being rushed? He was having a great season in Tacoma, came to the Mariners and continued it
Zunino on the other hand was hitting .227 /.297/.478/.775 in 2013 in tacoma when he was promoted and then hit .214/.290/.329/.620 for the Mariners that season, that is being rushed
Re: Unpopular opinion, I would trade Vogelbach at some point this season
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:50 am
by D-train
Donn Beach wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:53 am
Ackley 2011 ...Tacoma in 271 at bats,.303/.421/.487/.908 ...then with the Mariners in 333 at bats, .273/.348/.417/.766 that same season. Where is the evidence of his being rushed? He was having a great season in Tacoma, came to the Mariners and continued it
Zunino on the other hand was hitting .227 /.297/.478/.775 in 2013 in tacoma when he was promoted and then hit .214/.290/.329/.620 for the Mariners that season, that is being rushed
Yep. We went to see Zunino debut in August of 2012 in Everett. 10 months and barely 400 PAs later he was at Safeco in June of 2013.
Re: Unpopular opinion, I would trade Vogelbach at some point this season
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:05 am
by Donn Beach
looking back I don't remember being outraged or anything but that was nuts, what were they thinking? And i do think you can ruin a guy that way. He obviously had issues, and i have pointed out they really went back to college. Its not a given that he would have ever learned to hit but he should have spent another couple seasons in the minors trying to. I can see it as a slow stepping stone of improvement, that perhaps could have led to something, but if he is promoted it just never happens
Re: Unpopular opinion, I would trade Vogelbach at some point this season
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 1:00 pm
by D-train
Donn Beach wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 4:05 am
looking back I don't remember being outraged or anything but that was nuts, what were they thinking? And i do think you can ruin a guy that way. He obviously had issues, and i have pointed out they really went back to college. Its not a given that he would have ever learned to hit but he should have spent another couple seasons in the minors trying to. I can see it as a slow stepping stone of improvement, that perhaps could have led to something, but if he is promoted it just never happens
Jack Z thinking? Oxymoron right there.
Re: Unpopular opinion, I would trade Vogelbach at some point this season
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:04 pm
by Sexymarinersfan
Vogelbach is 250!!! Not 260, sorry Cap!
And I don't believe Big Papi was 230 except whenever he was on the Twins, sorry!!
https://bleacherreport.com/articles/123 ... e-steroids
This isn't proof, but there's logic behind it.
Re: Unpopular opinion, I would trade Vogelbach at some point this season
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:23 pm
by Captain 97
D-train wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 3:50 am
Donn Beach wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 2:53 am
Ackley 2011 ...Tacoma in 271 at bats,.303/.421/.487/.908 ...then with the Mariners in 333 at bats, .273/.348/.417/.766 that same season. Where is the evidence of his being rushed? He was having a great season in Tacoma, came to the Mariners and continued it
Zunino on the other hand was hitting .227 /.297/.478/.775 in 2013 in tacoma when he was promoted and then hit .214/.290/.329/.620 for the Mariners that season, that is being rushed
Yep. We went to see Zunino debut in August of 2012 in Everett. 10 months and barely 400 PAs later he was at Safeco in June of 2013.
Pretty much the same career trajectory as Buster Posey. Of Course Buster could actually hit in the Minors.
Re: Unpopular opinion, I would trade Vogelbach at some point this season
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:25 pm
by Captain 97
There is zero Chance That Vogey is really 250 I would bet my house on it.
Re: Unpopular opinion, I would trade Vogelbach at some point this season
Posted: Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:48 pm
by D-train
251 lbs of pure muscle!!!
Re: Unpopular opinion, I would trade Vogelbach at some point this season
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:05 am
by Sexymarinersfan
Captain 97 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:25 pm
There is zero Chance That Vogey is really 250 I would bet my house on it.
Just as there is zero chance Ortiz is 230!! I'm 230, no way in hell!
Re: Unpopular opinion, I would trade Vogelbach at some point this season
Posted: Fri Jun 28, 2019 11:48 am
by Dr Naysay
Sexymarinersfan wrote: ↑Fri Jun 28, 2019 7:05 am
Captain 97 wrote: ↑Thu Jun 27, 2019 9:25 pm
There is zero Chance That Vogey is really 250 I would bet my house on it.
Just as there is zero chance Ortiz is 230!! I'm 230, no way in hell!
He did say "was"
now.
