Kyle Seagers Production

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Re: Kyle Seagers Production

Post by D-train » Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:49 pm

ddraig wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:36 pm
OK, so K rates is no big deal, but why was it that time after time, early in the year, Seager would swing at a pitch low and in another time zone for strike three? It seems to me that a hitter who is aware of how he is being pitched to would make adjustments long before three months have gone by. Yet for Seager, this happens year after year.

Now I guess you can't complain if the numbers he puts up compensate for his suckage earlier in the year, and they do. Would I prefer someone who is consistent? Hell yes! But then again, perhaps he is auditioning for another team to pick him up at the trade deadline? You have to admit that a guy who gets hot at the end of the year could be in much demand to help carry a team to a WS spot!
His first half and second half splits are interesting. About the same BA but more HRs and BBs and less Ks....
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Re: Kyle Seagers Production

Post by SeattleSportsRUs » Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:49 pm

ddraig wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:36 pm
OK, so K rates is no big deal, but why was it that time after time, early in the year, Seager would swing at a pitch low and in another time zone for strike three? It seems to me that a hitter who is aware of how he is being pitched to would make adjustments long before three months have gone by. Yet for Seager, this happens year after year.

Now I guess you can't complain if the numbers he puts up compensate for his suckage earlier in the year, and they do. Would I prefer someone who is consistent? Hell yes! But then again, perhaps he is auditioning for another team to pick him up at the trade deadline? You have to admit that a guy who gets hot at the end of the year could be in much demand to help carry a team to a WS spot!
Well, early in the year, the team was on pace to be the worst team in history OPS wise. Aside from Haniger, nobody was hitting - they were almost at the Mendoza line as a team :!:

Could it be a veteran who was thrust into the 3/4 hole (where he doesn't really belong) was pressing and trying to create offense that wasn't there?

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Re: Kyle Seagers Production

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:19 pm

D-train wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:49 pm
ddraig wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:36 pm
OK, so K rates is no big deal, but why was it that time after time, early in the year, Seager would swing at a pitch low and in another time zone for strike three? It seems to me that a hitter who is aware of how he is being pitched to would make adjustments long before three months have gone by. Yet for Seager, this happens year after year.

Now I guess you can't complain if the numbers he puts up compensate for his suckage earlier in the year, and they do. Would I prefer someone who is consistent? Hell yes! But then again, perhaps he is auditioning for another team to pick him up at the trade deadline? You have to admit that a guy who gets hot at the end of the year could be in much demand to help carry a team to a WS spot!
His first half and second half splits are interesting. About the same BA but more HRs and BBs and less Ks....

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What's up with his BAbip? It's been declining steadily since 2016, but how in the hell does it go from .247 to .169 in the two halves while his OPS increases by 156 points?

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Re: Kyle Seagers Production

Post by bpj » Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:22 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:19 pm
D-train wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:49 pm
ddraig wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 6:36 pm
OK, so K rates is no big deal, but why was it that time after time, early in the year, Seager would swing at a pitch low and in another time zone for strike three? It seems to me that a hitter who is aware of how he is being pitched to would make adjustments long before three months have gone by. Yet for Seager, this happens year after year.

Now I guess you can't complain if the numbers he puts up compensate for his suckage earlier in the year, and they do. Would I prefer someone who is consistent? Hell yes! But then again, perhaps he is auditioning for another team to pick him up at the trade deadline? You have to admit that a guy who gets hot at the end of the year could be in much demand to help carry a team to a WS spot!
His first half and second half splits are interesting. About the same BA but more HRs and BBs and less Ks....

kyle.JPG
What's up with his BAbip? It's been declining steadily since 2016, but how in the hell does it go from .247 to .169 in the two halves while his OPS increases by 156 points?
I'd guess because he's hit more homeruns- which don't help your BABIP- and fewer singles and doubles.

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Re: Kyle Seagers Production

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:38 pm

bpj wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:22 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:19 pm
What's up with his BAbip? It's been declining steadily since 2016, but how in the hell does it go from .247 to .169 in the two halves while his OPS increases by 156 points?
I'd guess because he's hit more homeruns- which don't help your BABIP- and fewer singles and doubles.
But why?

I don't know what the breakdown is between halves, but overall this season his groundball to flyball ratio is the lowest of his career, 0.84 vs career 1.12. Also, his line drive % is the lowest of his career, 20.3 vs career 25.4 while his avg exit velo and hardhit % are unchanged. I'm guessing those first two numbers are considerably more extreme over the second half this season.

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Re: Kyle Seagers Production

Post by SeattleSportsRUs » Sun Sep 05, 2021 8:02 pm

Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:38 pm
bpj wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:22 pm
Sibelius Hindemith wrote:
Sun Sep 05, 2021 7:19 pm
What's up with his BAbip? It's been declining steadily since 2016, but how in the hell does it go from .247 to .169 in the two halves while his OPS increases by 156 points?
I'd guess because he's hit more homeruns- which don't help your BABIP- and fewer singles and doubles.
But why?

I don't know what the breakdown is between halves, but overall this season his groundball to flyball ratio is the lowest of his career, 0.84 vs career 1.12. Also, his line drive % is the lowest of his career, 20.3 vs career 25.4 while his avg exit velo and hardhit % are unchanged. I'm guessing those first two numbers are considerably more extreme over the second half this season.
Here's your answer. He's said screw grounders and screw left field. Probably more than ever.

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Re: Kyle Seagers Production

Post by Sibelius Hindemith » Sun Sep 05, 2021 8:21 pm

So his answer to beating the shift is to hit it over the infielders rather than try to hit it the other way? That would explain why, when he hits a ground ball or low line drive, it is less likely to result in a hit. That's assuming he was ever trying to hit it the other way prior to this season, but i assume he is now trying to pull everything.

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Re: Kyle Seagers Production

Post by ddraig » Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:37 am

And since his hit into a DP is down, he seems to be going more for the fences. And that would increase his SO rate, but doesn't explain why he was going for those low and in the dirt pitches.

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Re: Kyle Seagers Production

Post by desbcoach » Mon Sep 06, 2021 1:47 am

ddraig wrote:
Mon Sep 06, 2021 12:37 am
And since his hit into a DP is down, he seems to be going more for the fences. And that would increase his SO rate, but doesn't explain why he was going for those low and in the dirt pitches.
You commit early for a FB a few are not where you expected and it looks ugly

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Re: Kyle Seagers Production

Post by ddraig » Mon Sep 06, 2021 4:07 am

But safter a month of striking out at low and away pitches, you'd think he would have caught on!

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