Getting tired of waiting for something to happen

[GL_Storm]

Players have rejected the owners' call for federal mediation: https://www.mlbtraderumors.com/2022/02/ ... ation.html

[AT Funchal-Madeira]

a best-case scenario now appears to be a truncated version of spring camps that still leaves enough time for players to ramp up for the regular season. There’s no guarantee that’ll happen, however, and the longer the interminable deadlock in negotiations lingers, the likelier it becomes that the regular season will be impacted.

The final two lines from the above-captioned link tells you about all you need to know. Fact is the players are not contented with the status quo which they agreed to several years back. Unions are never satisfied until they bleed the owners or run the business into the ground. Players who make the majors are well compensated, imo..... especially if you are good.

[bpj]

a best-case scenario now appears to be a truncated version of spring camps that still leaves enough time for players to ramp up for the regular season. There’s no guarantee that’ll happen, however, and the longer the interminable deadlock in negotiations lingers, the likelier it becomes that the regular season will be impacted.

The final two lines from the above-captioned link tells you about all you need to know. Fact is the players are not contented with the status quo which they agreed to several years back. Unions are never satisfied until they bleed the owners or run the business into the ground. Players who make the majors are well compensated, imo..... especially if you are good.

I agree, and the proposal to spread a few extra million among the top 10 young players seems generous.

The average Dylan Moore doesn't even deserve what they get paid now imo.

[D-train]

Personally I don't think every player making MLB minimum deserves much of a raise.

I don't think guys like Kelenic belong there sooner, so "service time manipulation" is one I hope the owners win for obvious reasons.

Maybe implement arbitration after year one instead of year three with a cap of $1M in year 2 and $2M in year two. So instead of making $500-600k for three years the best players would make ~$3.5M ($500k + $1M +$2M) for the three years and the scrubs would still make ~$1.5M and everyone else somewhere in between.

[bpj]

Personally I don't think every player making MLB minimum deserves much of a raise.

I don't think guys like Kelenic belong there sooner, so "service time manipulation" is one I hope the owners win for obvious reasons.

Maybe implement arbitration after year one instead of year three with a cap of $1M in year 2 and $2M in year two. So instead of making $500-600k for three years the best players would make ~$3.5M ($500k + $1M +$2M) for the three years and the scrubs would still make ~$1.5M and everyone else somewhere in between.

That makes more sense to me than the pool they're planning to split among top players based on WAR.

[D-train]

Yeah the owners should be trying to make as many players as possible happy. Significantly rewarding a handful of top players won't do shit and would cost them the same about of additional salary. Better to increase the the salaries of 300 players by an average of $500k than 30 players $5M each. Both costs $150M or $3M per team.

[Pharmabro]

a best-case scenario now appears to be a truncated version of spring camps that still leaves enough time for players to ramp up for the regular season. There’s no guarantee that’ll happen, however, and the longer the interminable deadlock in negotiations lingers, the likelier it becomes that the regular season will be impacted.

The final two lines from the above-captioned link tells you about all you need to know. Fact is the players are not contented with the status quo which they agreed to several years back. Unions are never satisfied until they bleed the owners or run the business into the ground. Players who make the majors are well compensated, imo..... especially if you are good.

This is what I have appraised all along. Players just want more, more, more. I mean I saw somebody say hey look how compromising the players are they wanted a 105 million boost to target X among T to Z and they went all the way down to 100M or some such. I Stopped watching the NBA over the Sonics. I may stop MLB if this shit goes on too long.

[Donn Beach]

Actually player salaries have been declining

. Tossing out the shortened 2020 season for obvious reasons, here's where player compensation ended up from 2016-21:

2016: $4.07 billion
2017: $4.25B
2018: $4.23B
2019: $4.22B
2021: $4.05B

[D-train]

I am trying to understand that if the players think the owners are being unreasonable and they are confident in their positions why they wouldn't welcome and independent 3rd party into the process. Wouldn't they expect the arbiter to see things their way as well?

[Donn Beach]

Arbitration isn't about taking sides, it's about facilitating negotiations. The players don't want it because they view it as a delaying tactic by owners. It eat up two weeks and not get anywhere. The owners are viewed as trying to draw the thing out, wait out the players as much as possible, and the arbitration process would play into that. The owners that are being bled dry, the owners that refuse to open their books

. Mediation is a tool through which the federal government supports sound and stable labor management relations. As neutrals, FMCS mediators provide a third-party perspective and leverage the expertise of the skilled negotiators at the table to address the core interests of the negotiating parties.