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Re: HOF thread

Post by Donn Beach » Sun Dec 08, 2024 4:52 pm

Interesting, anecdotal like that internet poll. My point was as mariners fans that endured the endless ichiro mania I think we could tend to view it provincially, selfconscious with it's silliness. We might not grasp how really popular ichiro could be around the rest of baseball. In that sense if Mariano Rivera is a unanimous inductee then ichiro could be too.

Sort of the opposite of Edgar. On one hand, Edgar was underappreciated around the country, on the other, we are self conscious of ichiro being a hype job

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Re: HOF thread

Post by D-train » Sun Dec 08, 2024 5:10 pm

Donn Beach wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 4:52 pm
Interesting, anecdotal like that internet poll. My point was as mariners fans that endured the endless ichiro mania I think we could tend to view it provincially, selfconscious with it's silliness. We might not grasp how really popular ichiro could be around the rest of baseball. In that sense if Mariano Rivera is a unanimous inductee then ichiro could be too.

Sort of the opposite of Edgar. On one hand, Edgar was underappreciated around the country, on the other, we are self conscious of ichiro being a hype job
You can't say if a guy deserves to be unanimous or not you can only say if he deserves to be elected or not. You can't project your opinion onto others or vote for them in their place. That is what would be required to make him unanimous based on your own opinion.

If you think someone should be a first ballot HOFer but shouldn't be unanimous are you saying that some voters should not vote for him???? If that doesn't make sense which it obviously doesn't then the opposite is also nonsensical based on basic logic.
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Re: HOF thread

Post by D-train » Sun Dec 08, 2024 5:13 pm

It is very weird that Mariano is the first and only Unanimous inductee and it will be weird if Ichiro is the second but I honestly don't care.
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Re: HOF thread

Post by Donn Beach » Sun Dec 08, 2024 5:22 pm

Yeah, it's a curiosity. Think it just speaks to Mariano being popular with the reporters that covered him

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Re: HOF thread

Post by Donn Beach » Mon Dec 09, 2024 2:43 am

Dick Allen, Dave Parker Elected To Baseball Hall Of Fame

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Re: HOF thread

Post by D-train » Mon Dec 09, 2024 5:17 am

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Mon Dec 09, 2024 2:43 am
Dick Allen, Dave Parker Elected To Baseball Hall Of Fame
I still can't believe they rejected Lou twice. Now that pisses me off.
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